| Author | Post |
|---|
Duvet
Super Moderator Wammer
| Joined: | Tue Jul 19th, 2005 |
| Location: | Sarf London Or Norf Kent, United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 12544 |
| Occupation: | professional liar | | Interests: | Capitalism and drinking | | My real name: | Feather | | My CD Player: | Wadia 861 | | My Turn Table: | Pah | | My Amp/s: | Unico DM Pre/ Power Amps | | My Speakers: | Kharma Ceramique 2.3 ce | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: |   |
|
#21 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 10:31 am |
|
Hawk wrote: meninblack wrote: System I can't remember driving some big Proacs: Hawk and Testy will know the one I mean.
It was a Music First Audio passive pre amp (£1500) feeding a pair of Audion parallel single ended (300b's) mono blocks (£3500). On the day given its modest price compared to some others we heard, it was one of the days highlights. The front end was a talk electronics CDP. Also we should give the dealer, Noteworthy a thumbs up for being sporting enough to lest Testy play one of his 'specials' for a good 20 mins  :sw:
I'll type some more later when I have a bit more time ;)
Did he have an hearing aid 
____________________
Sorted
|
Hawk
Admin Wammer
| Joined: | Mon Jul 25th, 2005 |
| Location: | Herts, United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 7266 |
| Occupation: | Hairy Biker | | Interests: | Music, Photography, Motorcycling | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | Opus 21 | | My Turn Table: | SME 20 | | My Amp/s: | Border Patrol S20 | | My Speakers: | LV OBX RW | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#22 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 10:42 am |
|
| no.... but he needs one now :sw:
____________________
|
Dynamic Turtle
Experienced Wammer
| Joined: | Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 |
| Location: | HADOOOOKEN!!!! |
| Posts: | 839 |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | | | My Turn Table: | | | My Amp/s: | | | My Speakers: | | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#23 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 11:01 am |
|
So then, the inevitable "Heathrow show 2006" thread begins !
Obviously, I didn't get a chance to visit all the rooms, and most of my impressions are based on ten-minute listening sessions, so take them with a truck-load of salt:
Good set-ups & kit:
T+A SACD player & amp - lovely looking stuff that's so well built it looks cheap! Shame they were using those enormous T+A speakers (absolutely no mid-range whatsoever - just boom & tizz all the way). You could tell the amp & sacd player were doing something special. Lovely airy sound and very "hi-fi" if you know what I mean?
The DALI Helicons in the Tusk room sounded nice - particularly good with vocals I thought. Not convinced by the top-end, but that's probably more to do with the Tusk pre/power with was way to polite & recessed in the treble.
The Alium/Consonance room sounded great - get the size of that Droplet CD player - ridiculous! Amazing levels of (boomy) bass from those coincident speakers. Very nice, liquid sound overall, if tonally inept - acoustic guitars DON'T sound like that!!
Hi-Fi Emporium room - One of the nicest sounds I heard all day. The Lector CDP + Viva 845 amp + ESL57's was a magical combination - truly sublime. Those ESL's are incredibly easy on the ear - the sound really does "waft" towards you, rather than being rammed down your throat. Incredibly smooth & analogue sounding CD player too. Great value for £1900 IMO. Lovely looking beast too.
Metropolis / Sounds of Music room - brilliant stuff. That Lumley Stratosphere turntable was amazing - incredible bass. The whole set-up was interesting - I was surprised to see a DK intergated power the speakers. Not too expensive for the incredible grip & drive it has! Real "grab you by the balls and throw you around the room" kind of sound. Wow.
Avantgarde horns - Amazing soundstage in that tiny room but they gave me a real sense of "being there". Enormous and was to upfront/shouty in the treble region, but interesting sound nonetheless.
MBL's - ultra-expensive and incredibly ugly, but that there is a Wiiiiiiide soundstage. Feels like there's a band in the room. Having the speakers 30 metres apart helps, no doubt. Heaviest bass I heard all day.
PMC OB1's - wonderful sounding floorstanders with bass that belies their (very neat & tidy - almost wife friendly) cabinet dimensions. Would be interesting to see what they could really be capable of with some proper amps behind them. Those Arcam's sounded brittle, dry & uninvolving to me.
Bad set-ups & Kit
UKD room/Triangle speakers - Nothing special going on here. Those triangles may be cheap, but they certainly sounded it!
T+A speakers - horrid boom & tizz with no mid-range that you could feel was really letting down the amp & sacd player.
ACA Acoustics set-up - Consonance droplet + Quinpu £1400 integrated + JAS Audio Orsa. Worse sound of the show by far. Absolutely terrible and a major disappointment (was expecting great things from the Orsa's) The droplet sounded great in the Alium room, so that's probably not to blame. Couldn't believe the owner thought the sound was acceptable.
Lovington Speakers - Terrible sound - no body or weight. Tonally off the mark. Butt-ugly too.
Townshend - Major disappointment. Speakers letting the side down here methinks. Very liquid/analogue sounding cdp though. Nice timing. Horrid Cylon bling bling finish on all the gear too.
Pinsch/Icon audio room - Sounded terrible (which is hard to swallow, as he was using an Icon/Ming-Da pre/power!!). Just really dull & lifeless. What went wrong?
Martin Design/Esoteric X-01 system. IS THIS LOUD ENOUGH MATE? I'M TRYING TO BLOW THE GLASS OUT WITH THE BASS - COOL HUH? No idea how this sounded becasue my ears were too busy bleeding...
Tusk - long way to go in terms of design & sound. Shut-in/dull sound - very little treble energy. Too rolled-off for my ears. DALI's sounded great with vocals though.
Vivid Audio - yep, that's pistonic bass alright, but flipping hec, what happened to the music, man? Bass bullets hit you in the chest, but they've over-egged the pudding here methinks. Smooth mid-range & treble though. Overlooked by that scary bass power though.
So there you go. Hope you agree/disagree with my mini report?
Another thing - people certainly have a different concept of "loud" - what's with the volume at these shows? I don't need to be blasted out of my seat to appreciate your speakers - for christ's sake, turn them down! Also, if you want to chat, turn the volume down - I can't bark like a sargeant major all day....
DT
____________________
SACD: Shanling SCD-T200C or Philips DV963sa
Vinyl: Rondo Bronze > SME IV > Acoustic Sig Analogue One MkIII > ARC PH5 > MF A308cr > Usher Audio R1.2 > Amphion Xenon
|
meninblack
Founding Wammer
| Joined: | Wed Jul 20th, 2005 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 9908 |
| Occupation: | Speaker for the Dead | | Interests: | spookiness | | My real name: | Ozymandias | | My CD Player: | Bring | | My Turn Table: | back | | My Amp/s: | Dave | | My Speakers: | Whitter! | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#24 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 02:06 pm |
|
Some interesting observations, DT.
I thought exactly the same about the ACA acoustics room the first time round. Then I went back and they had the Micromega CDP going with some less strident music, and it was lots better.
That TEAC/Rogue/Marten Design system - Eek! It sounded better from the corridor.
The MBL room: the closest I've ever heard a hi-fi system come to having a real person playing a real piano in the room. Of course for the money you could have hired one. Elton John, probably.
I didn't go much for the Arcam/PMC set-up. Dull-sounding to my ears.
The funniest thing was the room with all the Shun Mook and Shatki Stones. They had four things that looked like toy cranes, each festooned with little wooden discs. £1680, apparently. The music (plinky jazz) sounded shite, so maybe they weren't switched on.
|
Hawk
Admin Wammer
| Joined: | Mon Jul 25th, 2005 |
| Location: | Herts, United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 7266 |
| Occupation: | Hairy Biker | | Interests: | Music, Photography, Motorcycling | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | Opus 21 | | My Turn Table: | SME 20 | | My Amp/s: | Border Patrol S20 | | My Speakers: | LV OBX RW | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#25 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 03:55 pm |
|
meninblack wrote:
The funniest thing was the room with all the Shun Mook and Shatki Stones. They had four things that looked like toy cranes, each festooned with little wooden discs. £1680, apparently. The music (plinky jazz) sounded shite, so maybe they weren't switched on.
you could try this instead
http://www.brio.co.uk/product.asp?GID=6&PID=34534#peter
the shun mook looked the same as this to me  
Last edited on Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 03:56 pm by Hawk
____________________
|
meninblack
Founding Wammer
| Joined: | Wed Jul 20th, 2005 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 9908 |
| Occupation: | Speaker for the Dead | | Interests: | spookiness | | My real name: | Ozymandias | | My CD Player: | Bring | | My Turn Table: | back | | My Amp/s: | Dave | | My Speakers: | Whitter! | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#26 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 04:15 pm |
|
This is nice too:
I reckon I could supply these at the special "audiophile" price of £1500 each if forum members were interested.
|
Testure
Super Moderator Wammer
| Joined: | Thu Jul 21st, 2005 |
| Location: | West London And Watford, United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 4641 |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | I am Testy | | My CD Player: | Aura Note | | My Turn Table: | Thorens TD2010 - AO 250 - 2M Red | | My Amp/s: | Aura Note / Slee Era Gold V | | My Speakers: | Amphion Ions | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#27 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 04:22 pm |
|
Hawk wrote: meninblack wrote:
The funniest thing was the room with all the Shun Mook and Shatki Stones. They had four things that looked like toy cranes, each festooned with little wooden discs. £1680, apparently. The music (plinky jazz) sounded shite, so maybe they weren't switched on.
you could try this instead
http://www.brio.co.uk/product.asp?GID=6&PID=34534#peter
the shun mook looked the same as this to me
But these are actually fun, slightly cheaper (cough), and don't look like they have been knocked up in 5th year woodwork class 
Last edited on Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 04:31 pm by Testure
____________________
Whatever You Do It's Evil for Somebody
|
Testure
Super Moderator Wammer
| Joined: | Thu Jul 21st, 2005 |
| Location: | West London And Watford, United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 4641 |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | I am Testy | | My CD Player: | Aura Note | | My Turn Table: | Thorens TD2010 - AO 250 - 2M Red | | My Amp/s: | Aura Note / Slee Era Gold V | | My Speakers: | Amphion Ions | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#28 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 04:28 pm |
|
Duvet wrote: Hawk wrote: meninblack wrote: System I can't remember driving some big Proacs: Hawk and Testy will know the one I mean.
It was a Music First Audio passive pre amp (£1500) feeding a pair of Audion parallel single ended (300b's) mono blocks (£3500). On the day given its modest price compared to some others we heard, it was one of the days highlights. The front end was a talk electronics CDP. Also we should give the dealer, Noteworthy a thumbs up for being sporting enough to lest Testy play one of his 'specials' for a good 20 mins :sw:
I'll type some more later when I have a bit more time ;)
Did he have an hearing aid
But Hawk forgot to mention that they wanted the details of the CD, as they thought it was a great demo cd  :shocked:
At least one room will have some varied music next year
Testy
____________________
Whatever You Do It's Evil for Somebody
|
Hawk
Admin Wammer
| Joined: | Mon Jul 25th, 2005 |
| Location: | Herts, United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 7266 |
| Occupation: | Hairy Biker | | Interests: | Music, Photography, Motorcycling | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | Opus 21 | | My Turn Table: | SME 20 | | My Amp/s: | Border Patrol S20 | | My Speakers: | LV OBX RW | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#29 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 05:18 pm |
|
Testure wrote:
But Hawk forgot to mention that they wanted the details of the CD, as they thought it was a great demo cd :shocked:
At least one room will have some varied music next year
Testy
Actually this is true... Kudos to them if they have the balls to use it at the next show
It will certainly be a nice change from the pants lift music that seemed to be coming from too many rooms this year..
Hawk
____________________
|
Testure
Super Moderator Wammer
| Joined: | Thu Jul 21st, 2005 |
| Location: | West London And Watford, United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 4641 |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | I am Testy | | My CD Player: | Aura Note | | My Turn Table: | Thorens TD2010 - AO 250 - 2M Red | | My Amp/s: | Aura Note / Slee Era Gold V | | My Speakers: | Amphion Ions | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#30 Posted: Mon Apr 3rd, 2006 05:27 pm |
|
Hawk wrote: Testure wrote:
But Hawk forgot to mention that they wanted the details of the CD, as they thought it was a great demo cd :shocked:
At least one room will have some varied music next year
Testy
Actually this is true... Kudos to them if they have the balls to use it at the next show
It will certainly be a nice change from the pants lift music that seemed to be coming from too many rooms this year..
Hawk
You forgot to mention the wonderful piano track in the Audionet room (sounded like a monkey having a heart attack at the piano)... how long where we in there before you tapped me on the shoulder to escape 7 secs
Testy
____________________
Whatever You Do It's Evil for Somebody
|
Hawk
Admin Wammer
| Joined: | Mon Jul 25th, 2005 |
| Location: | Herts, United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 7266 |
| Occupation: | Hairy Biker | | Interests: | Music, Photography, Motorcycling | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | Opus 21 | | My Turn Table: | SME 20 | | My Amp/s: | Border Patrol S20 | | My Speakers: | LV OBX RW | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#31 Posted: Tue Apr 4th, 2006 09:15 am |
|
Testure wrote:
You forgot to mention the wonderful piano track in the Audionet room (sounded like a monkey having a heart attack at the piano)... how long where we in there before you tapped me on the shoulder to escape 7 secs
Testy
Yeah sorry about that, I was a bit slow in reacting wasnt I
____________________
|
Testure
Super Moderator Wammer
| Joined: | Thu Jul 21st, 2005 |
| Location: | West London And Watford, United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 4641 |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | I am Testy | | My CD Player: | Aura Note | | My Turn Table: | Thorens TD2010 - AO 250 - 2M Red | | My Amp/s: | Aura Note / Slee Era Gold V | | My Speakers: | Amphion Ions | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#32 Posted: Tue Apr 4th, 2006 01:00 pm |
|
Went with Hawk(great chaffeau service :dude: ) in the afternoon and bumped into MIB. We didn't go into all the rooms:
Highs:
Noteworthy room (platine verde TT, Proac Response D38, Audion 300b monos)- For the modest price one of the best sounds of the show and they let me play my music ;) I'm starting to appreciate why so many find valves alluring
Metropolis Music (Lumley TT, DK VS-1 Signiture Integrated, Speakers??) - Sounded very nice, with a sensible sized speaker being used in the small room for a change, Hawk wasn't happy about the crackling vinyl
MBL(full reference line except using Noble 5011 pre-amp): Fabulous sound and a soundstage to die for from these weird speakers, bass was good, but the midrange and tweeter drivers are the stars. Very expensive and fantastic build quality. The MBL 1531 CDP on static display looked gorgeous.
Lows:
Tom Tom Room: Whatever the reasons the Art's didn't meet my expectations in this setup, sound was very flat.
SUTL: The guy really believes what he is selling, but it still sounded like a cheap car speaker stuffed into a cabinet.
Vivid: Heard them a couple of time before and they still don't sound anything special
Tusk: Disappointed, they sounded a lot better last time I heard them partnered with some J M Reynaud Offrande speakers
Testy
____________________
Whatever You Do It's Evil for Somebody
|
earl of sodbury
HiFi Dealer Wammer
| Joined: | Wed Jul 20th, 2005 |
| Location: | In Fatuated |
| Posts: | 10001 |
| Occupation: | love machine | | Interests: | stuff | | My real name: | Paul | | My CD Player: | Stello CDA320 | | My Turn Table: | long gone | | My Amp/s: | Cairn 4808 | | My Speakers: | Triangle Näia | | Trade Status: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#33 Posted: Tue Apr 4th, 2006 05:01 pm |
|
Despite being shagged-out, I thoroughly enjoyed this show - very informative.
Highlights of the show:
1. Horn Audio's full-range corner-box be-Lowthered loudspeakers: looked like they were made in a garage (they were), sounded heavenly on the end of near-budget kit (v. expensive DAC though)
2. Audio Acoustics - stupidly expensive (£15-£35K) but sounded sublime.
note both were valve-driven: note to self: buy bottles
3. Revolver new ultra-skinny AV-oriented floorstanders: show Massive promise, but bass was wayward in the hotel room - amazing resurgence from such a conservative manufacturer. Those toothpicks imaged like a bastard!
4. AT-Tunes 3 box streaming player/amp/power supply. This Mofo is the future, whatever us old farts prefer - 3 small, beautifully made, restrained-looking boxes making a smooth musical sound into Neat Motive 1s: if I was buying from scratch this would be my system. One day, all hifi will be this way.
5. ACA Acoustics - JAS Orsas + Consonance amp + Micromega CDP (not the huge ugly "Droplet" monstrosity) - very enjoyable, accurate, involving, loads of nice tight (mid) bass, little money (relatively).
6. Tusk - improves each time I hear 'em, but some more work would not go amiss.
7. Digital Audio Systems (DAS) - one of few people I spoke to who was wholly bullshit free, knows the industry and technology inside-out, and whose loudspeakers are actually capable of producing an accurate picture of what they are fed: massively underrated (and under-promoted) brand, check-out the actve "Halo" - not pretty, but makes a LS3/2 sound like a joke in the voice band...
8. Pinsh seemed to have things right soundwise this time round (last year was hateful), pity about the looks...
9. Seventh veil: Daveyoucunt: subs can and do work: go listen to it done properly
10. Meeting Hitmouse/Dan: good to make your acquaintance mate - that Staropramen went down a treat!
Lowlights:
1. Tannoy's new Haemorrhage Range "Glenair" : What FUCKING MORON decided to use a cheap streaming MP3 player? UTTER TWATS: crap in, crap out - sounded dire.
2. Tom Tom Audio - I promise I have no axe to grind, and went in here hoping and expecting to hear something a bit special. What I heard was some very explicit loudspeakers (Art) plus terrifyingly expensive Naim kit in a tiny room getting horribly overexposed in its joint failings: a massive disappointment. Though: the gorgeous Avid TT plus the wierd Canary-Wharf loudspeakers sounded sublime. Not all Naim is evil...
3. True Colours Industries - BASTARDS, going in there cost me £320 quid... 
4. Lovington - not Loving 'em - very dull... 
5. Yep, all of the music - ANY old Alba clock radio sounds good with twinky dinky jazz/light classical/solo voices!!!
6. Resolution S.U.H.T.L - tried one more time to see if there was anything in their claims, but no - they still sound like a 1970s transistor radio strapped to a grandfather clock... Pure crap (IMHO)
churz, eofs
|
chris
Wammer
| Joined: | Fri Jul 29th, 2005 |
| Location: | Leics |
| Posts: | 184 |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | MSB Platinum III | | My Turn Table: | | | My Amp/s: | McIntosh 501 | | My Speakers: | Meadowlark Blue Heron II | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#34 Posted: Tue Apr 4th, 2006 06:37 pm |
|
My second chance to hear the much talked about Emotions. I was underwhelmed by them at Manchester, but apparently the electronics were not up to the job. At Heathrow they sounded worse, could it have been that Nordost ( ) cable? It would have been nice to hear them at their best to find out what all the fuss is about.
I felt a bit sorry for Mr Resolution. I would imagine that a lot of the people that went to hear the worlds best speakers were onlt there to take the piss. I picked up his advertising card and claims such as noticeably clearer and more detailed than any other ever made, the clearest bass in the world, it works perfectly in any room position and beautiful cabinets made me loose all sympathy
For me the best two rooms were the McIntosh / Green Mountain (he always seems to but on a good dem - nice choice of music) and I'm sad to say the uber bling and totally impractical MBL
|
analoguekid
Guest
$user_ctitle
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | | | My Turn Table: | | | My Amp/s: | | | My Speakers: | | | Trade Status: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#35 Posted: Wed Apr 5th, 2006 11:01 am |
voters: 0
|
earl of sodbury wrote: 2. Tom Tom Audio - I promise I have no axe to grind, and went in here hoping and expecting to hear something a bit special. What I heard was some very explicit loudspeakers (Art) plus terrifyingly expensive Naim kit in a tiny room getting horribly overexposed in its joint failings: a massive disappointment. Though: the gorgeous Avid TT plus the wierd Canary-Wharf loudspeakers sounded sublime. Not all Naim is evil...
Seems everyone is saying summat similar, obviously summat not right, if you sat in the room, door closed not too busy, few folk, it may have been better, but given Tom Tom were apparently very busy, how many heard even what the system was capable of even in that room, did anyone stand in the room and listen without sitting down? or how many tracks did you hear, was it he music, was it the cable, I also read that system was sharp and spitty with the other speakers, so common denominator was system and cable.
FWIW I guess it's just like the WB arcs Earl, they too didn't work well with the Naim system at a recent bakeoff, but were beguiling with all other kit.
As PB says the emotions are something that just reaches in a grabs you over a nights liostening, the low level detail, low vloume performance is as good as it gets, and they go loud with ease, I suppose it boils down to shows aren't the best for showing what kit can and can't do, listen at home and you'll change yer mind.
Some folk have tried these in dealers rooms, and bought them, some haven't, but anyone whos had a pair at home buys them!!! we have at least 5 owners here, 2 with emotions and 3 with emotion sigs, all tried at home first and all bought, they must do summat right as between us thats £40k, we aint all deaf y'know
|
analoguekid
Guest
$user_ctitle
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | | | My Turn Table: | | | My Amp/s: | | | My Speakers: | | | Trade Status: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#36 Posted: Wed Apr 5th, 2006 11:04 am |
voters: 0
|
chris wrote: It would have been nice to hear them at their best to find out what all the fuss is about.
well that'll never happen at a show, you'll opnly get a glimpse of what ANY piece of kit can do, if you really want to hear them do their stuff, visist a dealer, and get a home dem, then you'll understand.
|
meninblack
Founding Wammer
| Joined: | Wed Jul 20th, 2005 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 9908 |
| Occupation: | Speaker for the Dead | | Interests: | spookiness | | My real name: | Ozymandias | | My CD Player: | Bring | | My Turn Table: | back | | My Amp/s: | Dave | | My Speakers: | Whitter! | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#37 Posted: Wed Apr 5th, 2006 11:23 am |
|
I gave it 20 minutes sitting down AK, with quite a few different tracks. Something in the set up clearly wasn't right, although the room being jam packed with people all the time (and the door always open) wasn't helping.
Who knows? The speakers have had enough rave reviews that I'm sure they can perform brilliantly, and I've heard enough Naim kit to know that that can also sound excellent.
Cabling? Room acoustics? In any case, a real pity that the southern branch of the Wigwam didn't get a chance to hear the (now legendary) Arts at their best.
Anyone had any word from Tom Tom Audio about it?
|
analoguekid
Guest
$user_ctitle
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | | | My Turn Table: | | | My Amp/s: | | | My Speakers: | | | Trade Status: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#38 Posted: Wed Apr 5th, 2006 11:29 am |
voters: 0
|
Tom tom mentioned it on naim forum, not sure about any others, James is a member here, so perhaps he can comment.
I agree it's a shame, you guys never heard them, like we up here have (and again I'm not saying they are everyones cup of tea, but they deserve better), and sound better than any of the recent shows have demonstrated.
As allways if ANY wammers wanna know what they sound like in a normal home, then your more than welcome to mine to hear them (of course you may just not like them, thing is they just play what you plug them into, add nothing and take nothing away)
doors allways open (metaphorically speaking )
|
earl of sodbury
HiFi Dealer Wammer
| Joined: | Wed Jul 20th, 2005 |
| Location: | In Fatuated |
| Posts: | 10001 |
| Occupation: | love machine | | Interests: | stuff | | My real name: | Paul | | My CD Player: | Stello CDA320 | | My Turn Table: | long gone | | My Amp/s: | Cairn 4808 | | My Speakers: | Triangle Näia | | Trade Status: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#39 Posted: Wed Apr 5th, 2006 11:41 am |
|
analoguekid wrote: earl of sodbury wrote: 2. Tom Tom Audio - I promise I have no axe to grind, and went in here hoping and expecting to hear something a bit special. What I heard was some very explicit loudspeakers (Art) plus terrifyingly expensive Naim kit in a tiny room getting horribly overexposed in its joint failings: a massive disappointment. Though: the gorgeous Avid TT plus the wierd Canary-Wharf loudspeakers sounded sublime. Not all Naim is evil...
Seems everyone is saying summat similar, obviously summat not right, if you sat in the room, door closed not too busy, few folk, it may have been better, but given Tom Tom were apparently very busy, how many heard even what the system was capable of even in that room, did anyone stand in the room and listen without sitting down? or how many tracks did you hear, was it he music, was it the cable, I also read that system was sharp and spitty with the other speakers, so common denominator was system and cable.
FWIW I guess it's just like the WB arcs Earl, they too didn't work well with the Naim system at a recent bakeoff, but were beguiling with all other kit.
As PB says the emotions are something that just reaches in a grabs you over a nights liostening, the low level detail, low vloume performance is as good as it gets, and they go loud with ease, I suppose it boils down to shows aren't the best for showing what kit can and can't do, listen at home and you'll change yer mind.
Some folk have tried these in dealers rooms, and bought them, some haven't, but anyone whos had a pair at home buys them!!! we have at least 5 owners here, 2 with emotions and 3 with emotion sigs, all tried at home first and all bought, they must do summat right as between us thats £40k, we aint all deaf y'know
I sat-in on several tracks, including some bought in by one of the punters, but plenty wasn't working right on the day, which is hardly surprising given the tiny room for a start... They never stood a chance IMHO...
FWIW I don't think either Art or Naim owners are deluded or deaf, but just as every MF show demo I've ever seen sounds awful, yet my system doesn't, so it seems that Art in particular keep getting crap demos (have heard Naim sound great - even imaging!).
It would handsomely repay Art to do more research on systems and setups for the wierd acoustics of hotel rooms I reckon - maybe rent the room for an extra couple of days before the show even: get it right for all ears.
churz, eofs
|
Polarbear
Moderating Wammer
| Joined: | Sun Jul 24th, 2005 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 6676 |
| Occupation: | | | Interests: | | | My real name: | | | My CD Player: | | | My Turn Table: | | | My Amp/s: | | | My Speakers: | | | Trade Status: | I am not in the Hi-Fi trade |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| MyPOTD: | |
|
#40 Posted: Wed Apr 5th, 2006 11:51 am |
|
Anyone had any word from Tom Tom Audio about it?
Yes I have, he was very pleased with the show.
Regards
PB
|
Current time is 04:26 am | Page:   1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ...   |
|
