Epiphany Acoustics Evolution Audio  Audio Emotion 
Results 1 to 14 of 14
  1. #1
    Registered
    Join Date
     Nov 2007
    Posts
     21
    Location
     Birmingham, , United Kingdom

    Post imported post

    Hi everyone,

    This is my first post, thanks for having me on here. I would be grateful for some advice. I bought my separates in 2000 and have been very happy with them. The components were:

    Arcam 7SE Cd player

    Rotel RC-972 Pre-amp

    Rotel RB-981 Power-amp

    Denon CDR-W1500 Cd recorder

    B&W DM 603 S2 Floorstanders

    Pioneer CT-S430S Cassette Deck

    Denon TU-260L II Tuner

    Technics SL-1200 MK2 Turntables (x2)

    Technics SHEX 1200 2 Channel Mixer (Recently changed to Allen and Heath Xone 92)

    I suppose I was using 2 pre-amps together with the technics mixer and the rotel pre-amp, but it actually sounded better that way because i felt the mixer was very basic for sound quality. I was happily listening away until I recently decided to upgrade my mixer to the Allen and Heath Xone 92 (6 channel mixer).....the sound is now much better!.......but I was stupidly continuing to use the rotel pre-amp when this is no longer necesary. I am now keen to upgrade some of the other components to complement the potential of the mixer, and because my budget has gone up in the past 7 years!

    I am keen to find out:

    1) A good choice of power-amp to complement the A&H mixer (budget up to GBP 1000)

    2) Which speakers will give me more clarity rather than just the muscle I have with the B&Ws. I also have no idea if floorstanders or stand mounted will be better? (budget up to GBP 2000)

    3) Any other suggestions with the other separates I have which could be changed to better my sound quality

    4) The best way to sell/exchange what I already have when it comes to buying new equipment

    I listen to a wide variety of music.......rock/ambient drum and bass/uk garage/soul/jazz.....which makes things more difficult! The set-up is in my lounge and I like the music to fill the room, but I feel a degree of clarity is lacking despite the power it delivers.

    Apologies for the long message.......I would be most grateful for any advice!

    Kind Regards,

    Sam

  2. #2
    Wammer
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     4,032
    Location
     Liverpool
    Real Name
     Mike
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No

    Post imported post

    You have two systems, or plan on making two systems? one with the 1200s/A&H and one for the rest? or will you route it all via the A&H?

  3. #3
    Super Dooper Wammer Cable Monkey's Avatar
    Join Date
     May 2006
    Posts
     5,548
    Location
     Birmingham, UK
    Real Name
     Henry
    Turn Table
     A R Legend (TTT)
    T/Arm & Cart
     PU7/Black Beauty SPX
    SUT/Phono
     HM7 / Tron 7 MM
    Digital Source 1
     Teac P700
    Digital Source 2
     Squeezebox Touch
    DAC
     Metrum Octave
    Speakers
     10 inch Tannoys
    Pre Amp
     Sonic Euphoria PLC
    Power Amp
     ARC D70 mkII
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No

    Post imported post

    Get another RB981, bridge and monoblock. Speakers are another matter. However I really think with your kit you should be looking at Yamaha NS1000(M) territory.
    Let me get this straight. You take a perfectly good CD and put it in a DVD player??!!

  4. #4
    Registered
    Join Date
     Nov 2007
    Posts
     21
    Location
     Birmingham, , United Kingdom

    Post imported post

    Everything routed through the A&H mixer..........is this wrong?

  5. #5
    Leper Wammer AmDismal's Avatar
    Join Date
     Apr 2007
    Posts
     8,776
    Location
     St Albans
    Real Name
     Adam
    Digital Source 1
     SB3
    DAC
     DitB
    Integrated Amp
     Sony V-FET
    Speakers
     JBL L300 Summit
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No

    Post imported post

    Cable Monkey wrote:
    Get another RB981, bridge and monoblock. Speakers are another matter.
    +1, good idea

    Speakers are deeply personal and room dependent, but at your budget you will find it easy to get dealers to spend time with you. My first call in your position would be to look up local dealers and listen to at least 3 or 4 different floorstanders at your budget; report back your preferences and we can come up with further choices like what you preferred.

    Adam
    Compression drivers twerk my eardrums

  6. #6
    Gufmeister Leonard Smalls's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     8,142
    Location
     Shropshire Borders,
    Turn Table
     Clearaudio
    T/Arm & Cart
     SME
    SUT/Phono
     EAR
    Digital Source 1
     Advantage
    Speakers
     Leema/Ditton
    Pre Amp
     Bow
    Power Amp
     Bryston
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No

    Post imported post

    sam-michaels wrote:
    Everything routed through the A&H mixer..........is this wrong?
    If you're looking for serious hifi sound you'll probably get better results without an in-line mixer, just using a pre-amp as switcher/volume..

    However, if you're after an entertaining system based on the A&H with everything going into it (i.e ditch the pre), stick a Crown or Hafler power amp on the mixer out, then stick the power into a pair of Cerwin Vegas or Klipschorns...

  7. #7
    Registered
    Join Date
     Nov 2007
    Posts
     21
    Location
     Birmingham, , United Kingdom

    Post imported post

    AmDismal wrote:
    My first call in your position would be to look up local dealers and listen to at least 3 or 4 different floorstanders at your budget; report back your preferences and we can come up with further choices like what you preferred
    Thank u Adam and for everyone's replies.......there is so much to choose, will give a few a listen and report back. I have to admit I like the look of the monitor audio floorstanders.....the platinum range is a bit out of my reach, but not sure how reputable they are? Anyone own any MA speakers?

  8. #8
    Wammer ultrawomble's Avatar
    Join Date
     Oct 2006
    Posts
     1,721
    Location
     Manchester
    Real Name
     Jim
    Turn Table
     SL-1210M5G
    Digital Source 1
     Exposure 2010S
    Integrated Amp
     MF A3.5
    Speakers
     MA GS10
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No

    Post imported post

    sam-michaels wrote:
    Anyone own any MA speakers?
    I do (GS10s from the range below the platinums) - though some on this forum might be a mite disparaging about them ;) Some say that they (MAs in general) sound bright (even harsh?), though given that they are a passive component in that you only get out what you put in or less, perhaps they (the speakers that is) are being very honest. I find them to be well balanced, provide a wide and deep soundstage and they go surprisingly deep. They are also very well controlled at lower volumes - assuming you like your neighbours - unlike equivalent models such as the Dynaudio Focus 110 which (although it is an excellent speaker and one I would love to own if conditions permitted) require quite hard driving to stop the bass from sounding mushy/flabby

    Just my opinions though.

  9. #9
    Wammer
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     4,032
    Location
     Liverpool
    Real Name
     Mike
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No

    Post imported post

    sam-michaels wrote:
    Everything routed through the A&H mixer..........is this wrong?
    No but you should run the mixer straight into a power amp instead of using a seperate pre

  10. #10
    Registered
    Join Date
     Nov 2007
    Posts
     21
    Location
     Birmingham, , United Kingdom

    Post imported post

    Thanks for your feedback.......i have been researching and feel Linn suits my system, especially the A&H mixer, although the options are nearly endless and become a bit confusing.

    My question now is do I go for one power amp (eg Linn Klimax Chakra 500) or 2 power amps and monoblock (2 Linn Klouts)?

    Not sure i completely understand the merits of bridge and monoblock, advice would be much appreciated.

  11. #11
    Super Wammer cjr's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     8,008
    Location
     UK
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No

    Post imported post

    sam-michaels wrote:
    Thanks for your feedback.......i have been researching and feel Linn suits my system, especially the A&H mixer, although the options are nearly endless and become a bit confusing.

    My question now is do I go for one power amp (eg Linn Klimax Chakra 500) or 2 power amps and monoblock (2 Linn Klouts)?

    Not sure i completely understand the merits of bridge and monoblock, advice would be much appreciated.
    Sttttttttttttop !!!!!!

    Sam upgrade your speakers mate. Before you try anything like changing PAs = the 981 is a fantastic power amp, Talking about 603s (no offence dude) with Klouts/Chakra etc looks severly unbalanced to me. Go and have a listen to some Dynaudio/Spendor/Neats/PMC being driven by your RB-981. Also try a new pre at that point you may be surprised the effect.


    Linn LP12~Denon DVD-2900~Marantz PS17~Dynaudio Contour 1.3 MkII|Sony BDP-S760~Sony MDS-JB930QS~Sony SDP-EP90ES~Sony TA-N55ES~Wharfedale 306|Sony CDP-X3000ES~Sony ST-S3000ES~Sony TA-VA777ES~Diapason Emera

  12. #12
    Registered
    Join Date
     Nov 2007
    Posts
     21
    Location
     Birmingham, , United Kingdom

    Post imported post

    cjr wrote:
    Sttttttttttttop !!!!!!

    Sam upgrade your speakers mate. Before you try anything like changing PAs = the 981 is a fantastic power amp, Talking about 603s (no offence dude) with Klouts/Chakra etc looks severly unbalanced to me. Go and have a listen to some Dynaudio/Spendor/Neats/PMC being driven by your RB-981. Also try a new pre at that point you may be surprised the effect.

    Sorry mate.......should have also said that the B&Ws will be the first to exit the set up! I'm swayed by the dynaudio audience 82 floorstanders......may lack some clarity but well suited to the kind of music I listen to. Not keen on my arcam cd player......but haven't listenened to enough alternatives to be sure yet. Should I keep the rotel power amp if I'm making these changes?

  13. #13
    Super Wammer cjr's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     8,008
    Location
     UK
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No

    Post imported post

    Sam do a search on the forum for Dynaudio Contour 1.8 Mk IIs. Plenty of reading, £750 will secure a pair, I would still get them in prior to the Linn amps you are considering, get the speakers and try and tailor your system to suit them, you may find the 981 owrks very well with them. The 1.8 IIs are in a different league to the 82s IMHO. Also consider other floorers ie like Spendor/PMC/Neats, I have really liked Rotel PAs every time I have heard them. Re. your CDP, if your considering changing the CDP, why not kill 2 birds with one stone, ie consider a DAC with pre-amp or a Digital Pre-amp with, then run to your Rotel. There are plenty about at a few price levels.


    Linn LP12~Denon DVD-2900~Marantz PS17~Dynaudio Contour 1.3 MkII|Sony BDP-S760~Sony MDS-JB930QS~Sony SDP-EP90ES~Sony TA-N55ES~Wharfedale 306|Sony CDP-X3000ES~Sony ST-S3000ES~Sony TA-VA777ES~Diapason Emera

  14. #14
    Moderator meninblack's Avatar
    Join Date
     Jul 2005
    Posts
     20,806
    Location
     Erehwon
    Real Name
     Mr Pink-and-Yellow
    Turn Table
     Palmer 3.0
    T/Arm & Cart
     AN Arm 3/ Io Gold
    SUT/Phono
     Kondo KSL-SFz
    Digital Source 1
     dCS P8i
    Digital Source 2
     SB3
    DAC
     AN DAC 2.1x/II Bal.
    Speakers
     Tannoy Kensington SE
    Pre Amp
     Audio Note M5 Phono
    Power Amp
     Air Tight ATM-1
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No

    Post imported post

    cjr wrote:
    Sam do a search on the forum for Dynaudio Contour 1.8 Mk IIs. Plenty of reading, £750 will secure a pair, I would still get them in prior to the Linn amps you are considering, get the speakers and try and tailor your system to suit them, you may find the 981 owrks very well with them. The 1.8 IIs are in a different league to the 82s IMHO. Also consider other floorers ie like Spendor/PMC/Neats, I have really liked Rotel PAs every time I have heard them. Re. your CDP, if your considering changing the CDP, why not kill 2 birds with one stone, ie consider a DAC with pre-amp or a Digital Pre-amp with, then run to your Rotel. There are plenty about at a few price levels.

    Contour 1.8 MkII's are very good indeed, and they synergise beautifully with big Rotel power amps. The combination is quite laid-back, so a livelier CD player than Arcam (ie pretty much anything else) might be a good idea.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •