What do you hate about LP's?

[Ant]

Following on from the digital thread

Ebay sellers who say they use the record collector grading system then when you recieve your M/M record you realise that it's EX/VG at best.

New records that are warped.

the price of really decent albums.

[Biscuit]

dust and scratches

getting up four times during a double LP

The fact you can't be an 'audiophile' without them

they are far too tempting to buy - but I'm bound to use my cdp more

the nice sleeves end up tatty unless you are an anal retentive

getting hold of em here in sweden.

[rockmeister]

storage hassles to stop them warping, collecting static etc
getting up and down to prevent that orrible click click THUMP at the end
silly bastards you lend them to who use them as ashtrays/drink mats etc etc
the fact that all mine were pressed before 1997...making me feel even older than I really am.

[kingsxfan]

They wear out.

[dudywoxer]

i don't have enough of them

old fashioned, get with the modern world, digital is where it's at

[chezi61]

Shrinkwrap that warps them , and the audacity of the shop assistant blaming my TT.

apart from that .............................nothing.

chezi.

[Davewhityetagain]

I like the odd bit of noise from a record just got this lot in the post

[chezi61]

rudolph hucker wrote:

getting hold of em here in sweden.

Rudolph ,

do a search on google for Vinyl Tom , I'm sure he is based in Germany , very reasonable prices and loads of rarities , I got The Smiths ; Strangeways here we come on grey vinyl for under £10 sent to Scotland , in under a week , and it was Mint condition.

Does new and 2nd hand.;)

chezi.

[notaclue]

They are too heavy. Too fragile. Scratches and clicks and pops. No remote control (on 99.9% of turntables).

[mikedefacto]

someone telling you (o0n ebay etc) that the record is in good->mint cobndition and when you get it they have written their name or "play this side" or similar on it

[dudywoxer]

analoguekid wrote:

old fashioned, get with the modern world, digital is where it's at

just cos you can not get it to work

dudywoxer wrote:

analoguekid wrote:

old fashioned, get with the modern world, digital is where it's at

just cos you can not get it to work

thats coz as a format it's already broken

[Duvet]

They remind of how young i was once.

[Crustyloafer]

chezi61 wrote:

Shrinkwrap that warps them , and the audacity of the shop assistant blaming my TT.

apart from that .............................nothing.

chezi.

I have to say in their defence that I went to exactly the same shop after reading your post and bought a copy of Goldfrapp: Supernature. I got home and it was warped soI took it back and they graciously offered a replacementcopy with no hassle although I'd have to come back the following day to collect it as it was in their next delivery. I turned up next day and arrived at the counter to pick up my replacement which upon inspection before leaving the store also appeared to be warped. They commented that it had come direct from the pressing factory and that they must be stored incorrectly there or in transit. Anyway to finish up they gave me a refund, actually £4.00 more than I paid for it and I subsequently walked 2 secs down the road to an extremely local competitor and picked up another copy there keeping thr £4.00 extra I'd been refunded. This copy is still very slightly warped but not enough for the Michell disc clamp not to sort out. Anyway my point of this story was that I don't think that the original store in question was at fault, more the distributor and having said that the original store was as helpul as could be expected. I just thought I'd post my experiences after reading Chezi's post a while back on the same subject.

[griffo104]

I got my copy of Supernature from Vivante and it is also warped but who cares - you have an Orbe by the time you have clamped it down it should be plumb to the platter any way.

I have to admit my experiences on ebay and vinyl have generally been vey good - I just assume Mint is Very good and I'm no longer disappointed.

My main problem with vinyl is storage - I keep buying too many of the damn things and I have no where to put them any more - of course that doesn't stop me from buying more.

[dudywoxer]

analoguekid wrote:

dudywoxer wrote:

analoguekid wrote:

old fashioned, get with the modern world, digital is where it's at

just cos you can not get it to work

thats coz as a format it's already broken

that'dbe it then, from Musician in analogue, to digital storage, back through our systems from digital to analogue- and the vinyl format is broken. Both formats have plus and minus points, and I assume both are broken in one way or another.

dudywoxer wrote:

analoguekid wrote:

dudywoxer wrote:

analoguekid wrote:

old fashioned, get with the modern world, digital is where it's at

just cos you can not get it to work

thats coz as a format it's already broken

that'dbe it then, from Musician in analogue, to digital storage, back through our systems from digital to analogue- and the vinyl format is broken. Both formats have plus and minus points, and I assume both are broken in one way or another.

never said CD was perfek

I also agree that both have plusses and minusses, but one ain't better than the other, in fact as the kit gets better, they both sound very similar to me, try it blind, with vinyl rig (total inc phonostage) that costs same as cdp, and I'm thinking around £4k plus here, if you think the differences are huge, then you have a problem, or are deluding yourself.

If you don't have a large vinyl collection, then vinyl is expensive and not very cost effective, is also fiddly and frought with idiosyncracies, that TBH make it more bother than it's worth, been there, tried it, and sticking with cd from now on.

[dudywoxer]

didn't say one was better than the other, but as I have over 1200 black discs i need to keep some way of playing them. And yes as kit gets better the mediums become more comparable, but its taken 20 years for the pure and perfect sound forever to get there. Now it has some daft bugger at the record companies will want it to besacd or whatever alphabetty soup they come up with (if you want a hard copy) a bloody downloads only.