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    Quote Originally Posted by Micke Y View Post
    I use a small number of discs year in and year out because they do the job for any system.

    A Perfect Circle - The noose from Thirteenth step. Its Metal but a different kind than you think.
    Very few system can handle the dynamics of this track, the bass (strong 20-30 Hz notes) and reproduce the distorted guitar in the fortissimo with full resolution. I have heard 3 system coping with this track at a proper levels, no more.

    Then some famous choir

    Cantate Domino - Propius 7762
    Track 9 - It starts with a solo voice and if you haven't heard this track before you set the level based on that. Then your whole system brakes apart when the choir joins in. Typical, you´ll hear the solo voice will distort in a very apparent way.
    This album is recorded with original dynamics and few system can hadle it in a realistic way. It can go from 50 dB to 120 in just a second.

    The four seasons - BIS 275

    It is recorded inthe most crystal clear manner with instruments tuned to original tuning. A little lighter than normal. Performance is top level as the sound. Very fast transients, very dynamic and super resolution.
    I could feel a wind blowing when the cello played hard, oops! Yes this was a horn system with two horn subwoofers, 1000 liter boxes each!!!

    Sometimes I also use The Mapleshade sampler that has a number of great tracks recorded in the best manner ever.

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    Having spent a large part of this weekend getting started on ripping all my CD's to Hard Drive for use with my new SBT I have come across a few additional CD's that can help .

    Two that can prove very useful are Ry Cooder - Bop Till You Drop (original CD ) and Ry Cooder The UFO has landed - Rhino Records compilation . All of the music on the compilation is excellent and shows off both the different styles that Ry has tackled through his career and many of them recorded very simply and with highly skilled musicians.

    However the very useful thing about having both Cd's is that there are some tracks on the compilation that are from Bop Till You Drop and they have been remastered by Ry Cooders son from the original master tapes (as this was the first popular album all digitally recorded and mixed think it was on to video tape)
    If your equipment can not tell the difference then there is most certianly something not right . Worth it for the music but helpful in set up as well.
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    I tend to use just a handful of tracks:

    Led Zep Since I've Been Loving You. Can sound so fast whilst being such a slow song. There are silences and peaks, and the voice is soooo close. When I play it to friends and the Jews harp plays a single "dwaaaang" on the left, I see their eyes open wide.

    Santana. First track from Abraxas, Singing Winds, Crying Beasts. Only a short track but it's a real test. The crispness shows through all the complicated stuff in the background. I believe Santana put in a lot on getting the quality of sound right on this album and it really shows. It puts me on the edge of my seat.

    Chantel McGregor. (Been a favourite of mine for a couple of years). Daydream (by Robin Trower) and Help Me. Simple, crisp electric blues. Solid sound stage, with vocals so lifelike and in the centre of the room. And there is a miniscule amount of mains hum on the effects pedal (I assume) on Help Me, which I find just right - strangely.

    Pink Floyd, Echos. I just know it so well.

    Patrick Moraz, Out in the Sun. Or maybe The Story of I. Or both. South American rhythms and layers and layers of prog stuff. Very demanding.

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    i wonder if this is a very personal thing , but prehaps one you might consider is a test cd , studio spares,uk sell it not sure of the name , any way it has good basic very short recordings of instruments and sections in solo mode, i dont actually think the recordings are all that good, but i would say will give you a quick referance and easy change over for the full range of instruments you might like to test you systems with , .

    it also has some test tones etc. and historical performance /train noises ihave just sold a nice dat machine that i had a few basic recordings done on to it just a couple of mics, cheap things at that but recorder at 20 bit 48k samples it to my ears made recordings much better than a lot of commercial cds,

    this was also good to get a evauation for a system ,or speakers, .

    you might pick one up for about £100 with a mic and maybe a small mixer , .

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    Bop till you drop, oh yes, but I picked up an almost new vinyl copy for £1 at a local vintage shop. One of the best for showing off/demoing tts imo. Wonderful, dynamic recording.
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    The Prodigy - Smack My Bitch Up. A dead cert to show up some supposedly 'transparent' gear as the equivalent of an Iraqi Minister of Information. ;)

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    cd has its flaws the black album mettallica , if its bad it sounds like the mike is shoved down his throat and he is screaming , and the guitars mash into one , and you cannot distinguish between kick drum and bass guitar , but when its right
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    Quote Originally Posted by wee tam View Post
    cd has its flaws the black album mettallica , if its bad it sounds like the mike is shoved down his throat and he is screaming , and the guitars mash into one , and you cannot distinguish between kick drum and bass guitar , but when its right
    The HDTracks version of that album is very good.
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    using the standard cd , now on the pd91 it makes sense and by the way it is an awsome soundstage , enter sandman no fecker falling asleep here
    Quote Originally Posted by browellm View Post
    The HDTracks version of that album is very good.
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    As this thread seems to have come back from the dead I'd like to add some tracks I like to bring along to listening sessions.

    In track/artist/album order

    Winter/Tori Amos/Little Earthquakes

    I love NYE/badly drawn boy/About a Boy soundtrack

    Mirrorball/Peter Gabriel/Scratch My Back

    Humble Me/Norah Jones/Feels Like Home

    Tuesday Wonderland/e.s.t./Tuesday Wonderland

    Circling/Four Tet/There is love in you

    Dead Already/Thomas Newman/American Beauty Sountrack

    Spanish Harlem/Rebecca Pidgeon/The Raven

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    Songs I really like which I often use for listening to new kit are:

    Nutshell / No Excuses (Unplugged album versions) - Alice in Chains
    Sweet Disorder / Drive (remake of The Cars' song)- Strawpeople
    Autumn Tactics / No Ordinary Morning - Chicane
    The Kingdom - Icehouse
    Please Forgive Me - David Gray
    Nightshift - The Commodores
    Your Latest Trick - Dire Straits
    Little Wing - Stevie Ray Vaughan
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    Quote Originally Posted by wee tam View Post
    cd has its flaws the black album mettallica , if its bad it sounds like the mike is shoved down his throat and he is screaming , and the guitars mash into one , and you cannot distinguish between kick drum and bass guitar , but when its right
    Good call - I used to thrash the shit out of that album years ago and really loved it. I haven't listened to it in a long time but have just given it a run through this morning and it is indeed awesome, even through my little Leema Xeros which I've currently got set up - they may not have the deepest bass, but they've plenty of punch and are wickedly fast.

    Cheers,
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    Hi,
    I've used these at one time or another for demos - some for their good sound & some for less than
    good sound to see how the kit copes!

    Roger Waters - Amused To Death.
    Q sound recording.
    The last track has lots of attack & also some very subtley bits - particularly backing vocals.
    The very quietly recorded female interviewer's voice near the end gets clearer with
    a good upgrade!

    A nice classical tune such as the Andante from Elgar's violin concerto (Kennedy/Handley/LPO/EMI)
    or the largo from Dvorak's New World Symph. (LSO live)
    These are beautiful recordings.

    Rush - Hold Your Fire.
    Thin eighties recording with limited bass depth.
    Hard to listen to on a dry, bright system.

    Rush - Moving Pictures.
    The Camera Eye 'cos its very familiar & to see how a system deals with drive & attack.
    This sounds uninvolving on a 'polite' system.

    Oleta Adams - Something from 'Evolution'.
    An excellent album very well recorded.

    Anita Baker - Rhythm of Love.
    The title track has some superb bass playing, particularly towards the end - finishes far too soon.
    Turn it up!

    Orbital - Know where to run - powerful bass synth.

    Something from Sabbath!
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    Something more modern: Django Django - 'Love's Dart'. It has it all.

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    To me, it seems most systems have the first limitations in the lower octaves. Music that reveals some can be found in:

    - Yello - Touch - Takla Makan - Universal Music
    Very relaxing and spacious, no high SPL, but a bass thats like a carpet being rolled out of the speakers towards you

    - Jean Guillou: Mussorsgsky at an Exhibition - Promenade - Dorian
    This is played on organ, I think one of the most difficult instruments to listen to at home

    - Peter Fox - Stadtaffe - Alles Neu - Warner
    Funny lyrics (need to understand German), pop music with an orchestra arranged, lots of drums, strings and bass

    Another difficult field is reproducing s/f sounds, especially with female vocals.
    Music that could reveal that:

    - Rob Wasserman - Duets - Ballad of the runaway horse (with Jennifer Warnes) - MCA

    - Cassandra Wilson - Belly of the sun - Waters of March - EMI

    - Gotan Project - Lunático - Amor Porteño - Ya Basta
    (also some nice bass on all these CD's by Gotan Project)

    Live recordings that could/should give you the feeling of 'being there':

    - Jazz at the pawnshop - Proprius

    - Eva Cassidy - Live at Bues Alley - Blix Street Records

    Great recordings to enjoy, easiest way to get a private concert delivered by your speakers:

    - Radka Tonneff - Fairytales - The moon is a harsh mistress - Odin Records

    - Joss Stone - The soul sessions - The chokin' kind - EMI

    - Ulla Meinecke - Wenn nicht für immer dann wenigstens für ewig - Die Tänzerin - RCA

    - Mariza - Fado em mim - Ó gente da minha terra - EMI

    Recordings that I personally had problems with to reproduce
    (might have been sloppy system setup at home or inferior hardware):

    - Katie Melua - The Katie Melua Collection - Nine million bicycles - Dramatico
    Sounds like an attempt to have the most distorted overcompressed drum and bass recording.
    To me her most beautiful song, and I don't have a tone control...

    - Adele - 19 - Chasing pavements - XL Recordings
    Towards the chorus all instruments seem to change to a more muddy and blurred sound.
    At around 1:40, or 3:00.

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    Here is a link to the music we used at Scalford this year. All good for demos.

    http://audiophilemusings.blogspot.co...list-2013.html
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    Very nice list sunbeamgls, will try some of the music I haven't heared of.
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