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    I am about to pick up an old Exposure Super VIII as a spare power amp. Exposure are one of the few cheap (S/H) power amps that are solid state that I rather like. The problem is I use Goertz speaker cable - same as Townshend isolda.

    I checked with Exposure as to whether this was ok and i received a definite DO NOT USE GOERTZ reply as they could make the amp unstable and possibly blow it up!

    RIGHT - we dont want to do that do we. And I dont want to spend much on another set of speaker cables for a standby amp. Would ordinary QED do - any ideas - this all sounds disconcerting but that is what Tony at Exposure said. I know exposure always said that only exposure speaker cable should be used (as in the words of mandy Rice-Davise they would say that wouldn't they)) however. . . . .

    This may be a Pink Fish forum query as i think there are exposure owners over there but any advice here?

    Thanks as ever.

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    NVA amps have similar problems, I think.

    NVA make excellent cables for their own amps - the LS5 is a real corker.

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    But a pair of LS5 cables would be £250 that's more than the amp, and as i said this is a backup amp in the event of an emergency! Would QED or something similarly affordable do?

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    Ah well, if you need a loooong pair of cables - pop down to B&Q and get some solid core mains flex. Really. It's the twisty multi-strand thing that upsets NVA amps, and probably Exposure, too.

    What do you need a spare amp for anyway? ... the Viva startin' to smoke & sputter?

    Anyways, you might find the LS5 supplants your Goertz stuff - Personally, I never really got on with any of the Goertz cables I have tried.

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    Just seen some LS2 at £30 - that may do the trick.

    Viva starting to sputter - miaoooooow! Handbags at dawn Jerry!
    No - just that I have always had a back up amp just in case (used to have back up wives too) - you wouldn't know about having the odd extra piece of hi-fi around would you, ahem





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    Exposure cable probably best. But any dumbell configuration type stuff should do.

    2 conductors separated by a gap of a few mm.

    Nain Nac , cable talk , linn.

    Or on a budget , that Gale see through stuff they sell at Richer Sounds.



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    Marthas dad wrote:
    Just seen some LS2 at £30 - that may do the trick.
    NO NO NO

    LS2 is crap.

    NVA LS1, LS3 or best, LS5 - quite different to LS2. Trust me on this.

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    Ecosse - 4.45 if the amp has biwire outputs, it is good but not cheap. I used to used Exposure amps, and used QED Profile 4x4 and upgraded to the Ecosse. When I sold the 18 monobloc power amps, the buyer called Exposure and asked them what their recommendation was - Ecosse 4.45 was the recommendation. QED will do very nicely too

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    JANDL100 wrote:
    Marthas dad wrote:
    Just seen some LS2 at £30 - that may do the trick.
    NO NO NO

    LS2 is crap.

    NVA LS1, LS3 or best, LS5 - quite different to LS2. Trust me on this.
    Ohhhh - ok maybe the see through Richer Sounds stuff then?

    Of course i trust you Jerry - I would even trust you to cut my toe nails.




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    Van Damme Blue/Black 2x2.5mm or QED Qudos/Original

    £2 a metre. Sorted or waste money on fancy cables that do the same job, ie CSA/Length IMHO. Or ......

    http://www.studiospares.com/Cable-Sp...mm/invt/548330

    Double the CSA and still £2/m .
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    Thanks CJR kind of what i was after - now these wont blow up the amp then?

    Beginning to think this spare Exposure idea more trouble than it's worth - but used to have a pair of old Exposure mono blocks and they were impressive. So for a cheap transistor spare have gone back to the idea.

    Thanks for all advice so far.

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    If you perceive differences in cable sound then Van Damn really is + . (As Bry-fi so eloquently put it on another thread)

    imo etc

    But I'll leave you to it now,Kooler King- best o' luck.

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    No - never cared for Van Damme either was thinking QED

    Wouldn't plain old reliable QED do Jerry or the see through stuff from Richer Sounds - infact I may never need to use the amp ! - don't want cable wars ! Just had e mail from Exposure - QED is fine they said, so perhaps sorted. . . . maybe . . . perhaps. . . .

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    FWIW - I hear no difference between Qudos/Original and VD Blue 2.5mm2. I am currently using Qudos with my Sony ES/Dyns, exactly like the VDamme.
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    No - never cared for Van Damme either was thinking QED

    Wouldn't plain old reliable QED do Jerry or the see through stuff from Richer Sounds - infact I may never need to use the amp ! - don't want cable wars ! Just had e mail from Exposure - QED is fine they said, so perhaps sorted. . . . maybe . . . perhaps. . . .
    Well, OK, seeing as you asked me a direct question I'll come back again.

    QED? Dunno.I'm sure it will carry the current. I've had the QED Silver Anni. My God. Where I perceive the Van Damn to be boring and to extract all musical interest, the QED SA was shrieky and quite unlistenable.

    Honestly, why not just buy some Exposure cable? - must be suited for the job and will give you that full ERC effect (Exposure Retro-Cred)?
    OK - personally, I'd go for the NVA, still. I've heard it and I know I like it. What's the point of having a spare amp that you don't enjoy listening to?

    IMO, YMMV, GIGFY etc

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    OK - thanks all (my very special thanks to Mr Jacobs) - what's the point of a spare amp - to look at for God's sake!


    Anyhow, I have picked up a pair of Kondo cables on e bay for a tenner - think they might work.

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    You could put a little zobel circuit in the amp and then you could use any cables you want .

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    Funny you should say that Phil - was reading something about zoebel - but think this is all starting to sound complex effort vs result but on a serious note think I'll source some Exposure or NVA

    Sounds like Kondo wont 't work either so shall give them to neighbour for garden system

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    Marthas dad wrote:
    Funny you should say that Phil - was reading something about zoebel - but think this is all starting to sound complex effort vs result
    It's really simple , a 0.1 uf cap in series with a 10 ohm resistor wired across the speaker terminals ( cap to + ) .

    A couple of quid in parts and 15 mins work .

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    I've got some old Exposure amps coming to me soon.

    The cable i've been told to use are either exposure cable or QED 4 x 4, now discontinued. Also been recommended either Naim NAC A5 or A4. Exposure at shows have also been known to use Chord cables with there newer amps, so i've been told.

    Which old Exposure mono's did you have?

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