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    I have recently found myself looking fondly at Landrover Discovery's.
    We have a caravan and 5 dogs. It's the ideal vehicle for us isn't it?
    Just coz you got the power... that don't mean you got the right.

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    You do not live in SW3 or SW6, you therefore have no need for a 4x4
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    Does towing a caravan need/improve with 4 wheel drive?
    I do know someone who tows a large car trailer and he has 3 dogs (so less obviously) but he uses a 2 wheel drive equivelent. HRV. Uses less fuel obviously since drivetrain losses won't be as much and not carrying all the extra weight of the 4 wheel drive and he has no need to actually go off road so a better road car was more important.

    I know nothing about towing a caravan though.
    Although they did seem more common back in the times before 4x4s were bought by anyone other than farmers.

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    Samantha wrote:
    Does towing a caravan need/improve with 4 wheel drive?
    I do know someone who tows a large car trailer and he has 3 dogs (so less obviously) but he uses a 2 wheel drive equivelent. HRV. Uses less fuel obviously since drivetrain losses won't be as much and not carrying all the extra weight of the 4 wheel drive and he has no need to actually go off road so a better road car was more important.

    I know nothing about towing a caravan though.
    Although they did seem more common back in the times before 4x4s were bought by anyone other than farmers.
    You don't need a 4x4 to tow a caravan but it certainly helps when trying to get off a damp field. We got pulled of by a Hummer last October!

    It is probably not much of an aid to driving on road as a caravan isn't a really huge one and the Citroen C8 2.2HDi copes very well.
    Just coz you got the power... that don't mean you got the right.

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    ClassikFan wrote:
    Samantha wrote:
    Does towing a caravan need/improve with 4 wheel drive?
    I do know someone who tows a large car trailer and he has 3 dogs (so less obviously) but he uses a 2 wheel drive equivelent. HRV. Uses less fuel obviously since drivetrain losses won't be as much and not carrying all the extra weight of the 4 wheel drive and he has no need to actually go off road so a better road car was more important.

    I know nothing about towing a caravan though.
    Although they did seem more common back in the times before 4x4s were bought by anyone other than farmers.
    You don't need a 4x4 to tow a caravan but it certainly helps when trying to get off a damp field. We got pulled of by a Hummer last October!

    It is probably not much of an aid to driving on road as a caravan isn't a really huge one and the Citroen C8 2.2HDi copes very well.
    I don't know why, but that made me laugh...
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    My dad towed quite a large van with his S-Type diesel up until last year when he got caught out by the weather and got stuck. He bought a cheap Shogun that does the job now, 2wd whilst on road and full 4wd low range for shitty fields, throws all kinds of crap in it, can't beat tooling around in something you don't care about.

    As for discos, I'd be wary of buying anything british mass produced, especially cars.
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    Matt J wrote:
    As for discos, I'd be wary of buying anything british mass produced, especially cars.
    Whilst I don't tar all British built cars with the same brush, Land Rover should really stick to something simple like the Defender as the other offerings are terrible. A quick cut and paste from Honest John reveals the following;

    Latest or updated Disco 3s are fitted with four panel seat squabs that don't have the creasing problem. Three panel seats squabs do crease.Air suspension compressor may fail.Sunroofs may leak.Terrain response system can fail.Satnav screens can fail.Bizzarely, if the engine pre-heater does not work, you can get it to by leaving the radio switched on the previous night. Software and wiring problem apparently.Lots of suspension problems, mainly due to wiring faults.Failures of 2.7 V6 diesels quite common, possibly due to failure of single turbo oil seals. (LandRover fits a single turbo version rather then the twin turbo in Jaguars, Citroens and Peugeots.)One reader's saga from December 2005 to June 2006:--Clutch failed-Suspension failed-Brake problems - replace twice and adjusted a third time-Transmission failed- rear screen wiper unit replaced twice- passenger seat sensor replacedDriver's cloth seats prone to creasing. The cause from the dealer is: "The seat cushion cover is secured to the cushion foam by two rows of securing rings on the first and second panels, but in order to accommodate the seat heater mat, none are installed at the rear of the cushion, which can lead to the above complaint. A revised cushion design incorporating a different seat heater mat (where installed) allows the cover to be secured to the cushion in the critical area. Should a customer express concern regarding the above, refer to the service procedure detailed in the bulletin to renew both front seat cushion covers."Complaints of driver seat wear and leg pain from somdething metal under the seat cover.Problems continue. Received 24-11-2007: "I purchased an 'approved used' Land Rover Discovery 3 in December 2006. It was delivered with faults (a flat tyre, faulty engine which loses power at 60mph in the outside lane - very scary, numerous electrical faults, etc ad infinitum). It has never been repaired satisfactorily and I returned the vehicle to the dealership recently and will be claiming a full refund. The appalling level of customer service that I have received beggars belief. What is the point of paying a large sum of money for a prestige car that doesn't work? I believe that there is a growing bubble of discontent amongst consumers that have purchased the Discovery 3 and the Range Rover and have been left short. See www.haveyoursay.com]www.haveyoursay.com[/url] for an ever growing level of horror stories from this vehicle.
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    Samantha wrote:
    Does towing a caravan need/improve with 4 wheel drive?
    I do know someone who tows a large car trailer and he has 3 dogs (so less obviously) but he uses a 2 wheel drive equivelent. HRV. Uses less fuel obviously since drivetrain losses won't be as much and not carrying all the extra weight of the 4 wheel drive and he has no need to actually go off road so a better road car was more important.

    I know nothing about towing a caravan though.
    Although they did seem more common back in the times before 4x4s were bought by anyone other than farmers.
    It's to do with the weight the vehicle is capable of towing - in essence, the heavier a vehicle is, the more it is likely to be able to tow. Therefore 4x4's tend to be better at this, because they are generally heavier and have more torquey engines. The 4wd while not a pre-requisite, will give better traction in general, and will help as others have said in slippery conditions

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    s2000db wrote:
    ClassikFan wrote:
    Samantha wrote:
    Does towing a caravan need/improve with 4 wheel drive?
    I do know someone who tows a large car trailer and he has 3 dogs (so less obviously) but he uses a 2 wheel drive equivelent. HRV. Uses less fuel obviously since drivetrain losses won't be as much and not carrying all the extra weight of the 4 wheel drive and he has no need to actually go off road so a better road car was more important.

    I know nothing about towing a caravan though.
    Although they did seem more common back in the times before 4x4s were bought by anyone other than farmers.
    You don't need a 4x4 to tow a caravan but it certainly helps when trying to get off a damp field. We got pulled of by a Hummer last October!

    It is probably not much of an aid to driving on road as a caravan isn't a really huge one and the Citroen C8 2.2HDi copes very well.
    I don't know why, but that made me laugh...
    made me laugh as I wrote it. thought it might tickle somones fancy.
    Just coz you got the power... that don't mean you got the right.

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    ClassikFan wrote:
    You don't need a 4x4 to tow a caravan but it certainly helps when trying to get off a damp field. We got pulled of by a Hummer last October!
    Coincidence! I got pulled off by a hummer once...




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    Don't worry: as a caravanner you are already Satan's Muppet, hated and reviled by all other road users.

    May as well go the whole hog and get a Rangie Sport.

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    meninblack wrote:
    Don't worry: as a caravanner you are already Satan's Muppet, hated and reviled by all other road users.

    May as well go the whole hog and get a Rangie Sport.
    To be honest, with a caravan on the back you could be driving anything at all and still look a twat



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    ClassikFan wrote:
    I have recently found myself looking fondly at Landrover Discovery's.
    We have a caravan and 5 dogs. It's the ideal vehicle for us isn't it?
    it's known as old age...
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    Don't.

    I mean, really, DON'T.
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    caravan - like trying a coffin on for size

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    HiFiWigWam wrote:
    meninblack wrote:
    Don't worry: as a caravanner you are already Satan's Muppet, hated and reviled by all other road users.

    May as well go the whole hog and get a Rangie Sport.
    To be honest, with a caravan on the back you could be driving anything at all and still look a twat

    And what the fucks it got to do with you?
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    meninblack wrote:
    Don't worry: as a caravanner you are already Satan's Muppet, hated and reviled by all other road users.

    May as well go the whole hog and get a Rangie Sport.
    Good point, can you get them in white? Or maybe an X6?
    Just coz you got the power... that don't mean you got the right.

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    Sat in front of me in the traffic this morning was a 56 plate Discovery with a serious condensation problem. I could just about see the driver wiping up a little square of clear window just in front of him... and that was it... the rest was all mist and drops of water.

    A mate of mine has a P-reg Golf with a similar problem. A spot of rain and the windows mist up chronically like he's been parked at his favourite dogging spot for the last couple of hours.

    You might expect such issues with an ancient car... but not with a three year old Range Rover.
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    Jezzer wrote:
    Sat in front of me in the traffic this morning was a 56 plate Discovery .....
    ......blah blah blah aren't they rubbish and unreliable.........
    ...but not with a three year old Range Rover.
    Well, which one was it then?

    Normally at this point I would dive in head first to sneer at the Jap-crapthat's been mentioned so far,bang on about how wonderful Land Rovers are and how brilliant the Disco 3 is (when it's working) but as the OP is a caravannist and has five stinking mutts (WHY??!) I wouldn't like to see such a wonderful vehicle subject to such treatment.

    Therefore, my advice is - go for an Audi Q7, Porsche Cayenne or BMW X5.


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    Beobloke wrote:
    Jezzer wrote:
    Sat in front of me in the traffic this morning was a 56 plate Discovery .....
    ......blah blah blah aren't they rubbish and unreliable.........
    ...but not with a three year old Range Rover.
    Well, which one was it then?

    Normally at this point I would dive in head first to sneer at the Jap-crapthat's been mentioned so far,bang on about how wonderful Land Rovers are and how brilliant the Disco 3 is (when it's working) but as the OP is a caravannist and has five stinking mutts (WHY??!) I wouldn't like to see such a wonderful vehicle subject to such treatment.

    Therefore, my advice is - go for an Audi Q7, Porsche Cayenne or BMW X5.

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