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    sodders,
    I'ts currently nudging 160k, the engine is strong as an ox - it gets a bit thrashy when i let the oil run low but top it up and it's smooth as silk again.

    the 2.2 i-ctdi is a real gem of an engine - and i'd not hesitate to go for another car with it in - but go for a later model if you can they worked out the few gremlins it had by 07/08.
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    you should be fine, the manifold was the big problem and was tech bulletin to honda dealers who should have done it as part of the general servicing. They are lovely cars and if i hadn't let mine get into such a state and it had less miles i'd be keeping it.

    the only criticism i have about the thing as a package is that it's only 5 gears and could really use a 6th when on a run.

    Others to consider are the smaller people carriers, the c-max is about the best of the bunch, not as many toys as the accord but on the whole not a bad motor.
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    so sodburger...are we now hondaman??
    Can't see it myself, unless you imvest in an antimacassar for the headrest. You DO realise that Honda owners are respectable people. You're gonna scare a few old ladies methinks
    You can't change the wind
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmeister View Post
    so sodburger...are we now hondaman??
    Can't see it myself, unless you imvest in an antimacassar for the headrest. You DO realise that Honda owners are respectable people. You're gonna scare a few old ladies methinks
    Not least the ones who are bound and gagged in the boot.
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    oh sure...I meant the over 90's....70+ isn't really OLD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    I like it. A lot. I calc'd fuel use last week for the first ~1000 miles of very mixed motoring: 48.5MPG, not bad for a large 140BHP estate... (read it and weep petrol-sniffers )
    I did but nodded off when I got to "calc'd fuel use last week". What was the question again?
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    Its fine to be anal in all things...retention, self love, passion focus with women etc etc...shows consistency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beobloke View Post
    I did but nodded off when I got to "calc'd fuel use last week". What was the question again?
    Must be nice to be well off enough not to have to worry about fuel use I wish I was in that enviable position.

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    You need one of these - the wee scented version, of course...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gthang View Post
    Andy, current tank is 45mpg (including our day out, which dropped the average a little)

    my tank before was 50.4. change at 2K rpm and don't brake jobs a good un


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    switch your cars inboard computer to show 'momentary fuel consumption' if it has such a thing. The toyota swings from 9mpg (hard uphill acceleration) to 89.9 (6th gear downhill, foot off the pedal)...currently got up to 50.1 average by avoiding the former.
    You can't change the wind
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    Quote Originally Posted by gthang View Post
    Andy, current tank is 45mpg (including our day out, which dropped the average a little)

    my tank before was 50.4. change at 2K rpm and don't brake jobs a good un


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    switch your cars inboard computer to show 'momentary fuel consumption' if it has such a thing. The toyota swings from 9mpg (hard uphill acceleration) to 89.9 (6th gear downhill, foot off the pedal)...currently got up to 50.1 average by avoiding the former.
    You can't change the wind
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    bloody thread nearly died, so now sold the damned toyota (life IS too short for a Toyota, in case anyone was wondering....mind to be fair, the new one has apparently risen to the dizzy heights of 'quite interesting')
    and now bought yet another merc.
    '08 280 CDi Elegance estate auto in a sort of amazing red which looks dark in the shade but goes all sparkly burnt orange in the sun.......apologies for slipping into solid speak there....came over all damp.

    Good: Build back to W124 standard or near. Huge inside. Comfy and quiet natch. Plenty of torque. That colour. Saved 28,000 over new price.
    Bad: Running costs going up. slow speed ride not quite as bump free as you might want.

    Exciting 'driving along quite slowly in a big merc estate trying to creep the MPG over 35 average' type report to follow.

    Do try and stay awake.
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    nice colour tho...and currently averaging 38mpg which aint bad for a 2.9litre v6 towing nearly 2 tons about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmeister View Post
    nice colour tho...and currently averaging 38mpg which aint bad for a 2.9litre v6 towing nearly 2 tons about.

    Not bad at all, my 150hp petrol passat which weighs about the same is currently getting 19mpg average. Driving like a learner driver too :/
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    There are no squeakes or rattles.
    A bird shat on it last week. Is that interesting?
    You can't change the wind
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    more heart racing excitement, as we manage to 'down' the fuel consumption to a new record 39.6 measured over 423miles.

    To set the mood, we left after a good breakfast of all bran and weak tea, ate our packed egg sandwiches ( a little salt and pepper) in the drizzle at the ridgeway, and stopped again for flask tea and a digestive just outside wellingborough Tesco's. I once exceeded 70mph, but R steadfastly stuck to 68 on the motorway and 52 everywhere else (including towns and villages, startling several old ladies and a flock of ducks).

    An experience I look forward to bettering.
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    That's pretty impressive fuel economy John. We run a 55 plate Merc estate (220cdi Avent Garde) and around here (hilly) with a fair few short trips thrown in, the average is around 35mpg. On a long run, the best we saw was 50mpg over 220 miles (staying under the magic 70 mph figure). Its an auto which doesnt help. Its now gone round the clock and still feels factory fresh and drives like new. Haven't tried a later Merc, but these W203 motors seem pretty bullet proof.

    I also run a 185BHP S60D5. That averages 36mpg around here with 50mpg on a run. Not bad for a large and very nippy 2.4l lump. That's auto too (I don't trust any of the DMF shod diesels these days...forking out 1K for a clutch and new flywheel when they eventually DO disintegrate doesn't appeal).

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    Pah! Passat 2.0 TDI (140 bhp): 25,000 miles; 63.4 mpg average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meninblack View Post
    Pah! Passat 2.0 TDI (140 bhp): 25,000 miles; 63.4 mpg average.
    yeh, but its still a pisshat, so you need some compensation for driving the thing
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