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    Super Dooper Wammer f1eng's Avatar
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    It parallels the supplied remote plus the circular display on the amp, which means you don't need to see the amp.
    Works well.
    Has no link to any computer you may be streaming from, just to the D-Premier(s)

    I prefer the remote itself, an ergonomic joy and my main reason for trying one out at first...honest. Though the unique topology interested me too.

  2. #262
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    It cannot turn the Devialet on though, so you still need to use the actual remote before using the app



    Quote Originally Posted by f1eng View Post
    It parallels the supplied remote plus the circular display on the amp, which means you don't need to see the amp.
    Works well.
    Has no link to any computer you may be streaming from, just to the D-Premier(s)

    I prefer the remote itself, an ergonomic joy and my main reason for trying one out at first...honest. Though the unique topology interested me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f1eng View Post
    It parallels the supplied remote plus the circular display on the amp, which means you don't need to see the amp.
    Works well.
    Has no link to any computer you may be streaming from, just to the D-Premier(s)

    I prefer the remote itself, an ergonomic joy and my main reason for trying one out at first...honest. Though the unique topology interested me too.
    Right, thanks for the info. It was always a bit peculiar that you couldn't see the display when seated (unless the amp is on the wall). Then again as you say the remote is a beautiful object to touch and use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tune View Post
    Not a technical bod myself but the circuit that seems vaguely similar to me is David Berning's ZOTL which also uses a class a device (in this case valves) to create high current low voltage and a switching device to create the current required by the loudspeakers.
    Sort of, although crossed with a Quad current-dumper, and the ill-fated Wadia power DAC. It's the power DAC part that's really interesting.

    The NAD is as much a trickle down of its big digital amp model, rather than looking at the D-Premier and thinking 'me too'.

    The price of admission is high and it is a complex bit of kit, but I've yet to meet someone who said - from an engineering standpoint - that it's overpriced for what you get. It would be good for Devialet to come up with a good-better-best strategy (perhaps setting the D-Premier as 'better' and making one at half the price and at one at three times the price), but it's currently still doing strong business in almost every region apart from the US (it's too small, too cheap and too French for them).
    "Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." Albert Einstein

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    Anything newer needs an Ethernet hole IMO. For firmware upgrades and streaming. Just MO. Still a beautiful and terrifically clever piece of kit.
    Last edited by Gyroscope; 26-07-2012 at 03:27 PM.

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    Absolute Sounds have decided to drop the price of the D Premier from 11199 to 10450 due to the low euro at the present time anyone who might interested in buy one should do sooner rather than later....

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    HiFi Dealer Wammer BD Audio's Avatar
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    Excellent value IMO John!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdur View Post
    Excellent value IMO John!
    Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary- William S. Burroughs

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    HiFi Dealer Wammer BD Audio's Avatar
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    Er what's funny TR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdur View Post
    Er what's funny TR?
    Didn't you get the memo? All kit must cost thruppence-ha'penny, and look like a sack of spanners.

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    HiFi Dealer Wammer BD Audio's Avatar
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    Oh I see, well it is a lot of money but if you heard one as I have and have that kind of disposable income then it is very nice indeed.

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    Cock with Aspergers ncdrawl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyroscope View Post
    Didn't you get the memo? All kit must cost thruppence-ha'penny, and look like a sack of spanners.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyroscope View Post
    Didn't you get the memo? All kit must cost thruppence-ha'penny, and look like a sack of spanners.
    hardly dude. none of the things I own look like "a sack of spanners".

    the fact that they had a pretentious "celebrity launch" in their cheesy boutique really sums up that tier of the hobby nicely.

    as for looks? I find it hideous. the shiny chrome to me is extremely tacky.

    I did find the comment that 10 grand as "great value" hilarious. it just isn't. But the type of people who buy that stuff probably dont give a shit about "value" anyway.

    the gear BigDur sells is a great value. Rega is a great value. NAD..great value.

    the D whatever is blingy audio jewelry aimed at a very particular market (the type who would visit stores edit BOUTIQUEs called "La Maison" , Support Mitt Romney, Rich White Republicans , doctors, lawyers, ceos, company owners, etc etc)

    maybe its time I stick to the music threads or public bar. hifi gets more and more disgusting as time passes and my tolerance for it gets smaller and smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncdrawl View Post
    Support Mitt Romney, Rich White Republicans , doctors, lawyers, ceos, company owners, etc etc)
    Now amplifier prices and marketing strategies are a race issue? I must have missed that memo too.

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    Good Post by EOS. ncdrawl needs to get a life!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    I doubt very much if you have clue how much it costs to research, design, engineer, prototype and actually physically build audio kit. I have, in a tiny basic way, done so, and the costs are scary nowadays. There is no economy of scale with equipment like this and customers expect an exceptional build quality and finish and huge functionality.

    You may choose to disbelieve it, but Jack was right - for all that it is, and all that it can do, it is actually fairly priced in any context. In its market sector it's rather a bargain!

    You've gone out an Got A Life - and now hifi has a more proportionate place in your life - which is great and I'm genuinely happy for you - but this doesn't overnight turn you into the Prophet of Sanity here to save us all from our sins of conspicuous consumption: it's just a hobby, not a belief system, we all know it's not the greatest possible value for money, but we buy with our eyes open knowing this, so please don't patronise an entire forum with your newfound enlightenment. We've seen it all before
    Excellent post (but viewed from the perspective of a no-doubt biassed owner)

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhull View Post
    Good Post by EOS. ncdrawl needs to get a life!!!!!
    This isn't PFM FFS, dont think brand syncophants are allowed to get ass sore. :p

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    it's just a hobby, not a belief system
    I'm not so sure, Paul. Been to PFM lately?
    Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary- William S. Burroughs

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    Smart man :thumbup:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncdrawl View Post
    The fact that they had a pretentious "celebrity launch" in their cheesy boutique really sums up that tier of the hobby nicely.

    I find it hideous. The shiny chrome to me is extremely tacky.

    I did find the comment that 10 grand as "great value" hilarious. It just isn't.

    Maybe its time I stick to the music threads or public bar. Hifi gets more and more disgusting as time passes and my tolerance for it gets smaller and smaller.

    Why waste your time commenting about a company you don't like, a product that you don't like and have no intention of owning, and owners who irritate you?

    I wouldn't waste my time reading threads about Mastersound or Bryston or whatever because I have no interest - even though I'd guess they are good outfits producing good product with many happy customers.

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    Lol Ian ,

    I kinda get where you're coming from with that view. For me personally though, I'll often take an interest in threads relating to kit I may have no interest in buying & sometimes .....I may even learn something or perhaps change my view even. I think if everyone adopted the same view as you suggest then any kit thread would run the risk of being some sort of cozy owners club type thread & that route would run the risk of hubris & entropy. IMV this thread has been lively at the very least & the sometimes heated debate....IMO is healthy compared to the stagnation, dross & drivel of some of the other Audio Fora. I do understand how yourself & other Devialet owners may have bridled at some of the criticisms but at least the debate has been healthy & robust & different viewpoints have mostly been explained/justified.

    Vive la difference/Long live the Wam!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanG-UK View Post
    Why waste your time commenting about a company you don't like, a product that you don't like and have no intention of owning, and owners who irritate you?

    I wouldn't waste my time reading threads about Mastersound or Bryston or whatever because I have no interest - even though I'd guess they are good outfits producing good product with many happy customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncdrawl View Post
    as for looks? I find it hideous. the shiny chrome to me is extremely tacky.
    Chrome doesn't do it for me either, but now that it's available in white ...

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