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    Help deciding on a first amp

    Hi all,

    Im just getting into my first hifi setup and am trying to decide (decode) on the amp.. Recently I picked up a pair of B&W 602 s2's along with a Pro-ject Debut III TT. The only thing that is on my list is the amplifier but I'm looking to get something around the 100-150 pricerange (new or 2nd Hand)


    In an ideal world I would look at getting a Marantz PM6003, but its just a bit too far out of my budget..

    I'm aware rotels would be a good match but buying second hand the numbers and model variations are very confusing...

    Any suggestions?

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    HHi,

    Maybe an a&r a60
    myst tm3
    or one one of the older rotels

    All of these will let you use your project without getting a phono stage.

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    What about a brand new Sony receiver ? see here http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/p...roduct_ID/5231

    120.00 including delivery here http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-STRDH10...6061019&sr=1-8

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    Sorry, forget this, no provision for a TT.
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    THe outgoing model of the Rega Brio 3. They were 330 new, now they're 250 new, and you should be able to pick one up 2nd hand for 150 without difficulty. Best bargain in hi fi IMHO.

    Even at 330 they were an amazing little amp for the money. I compared mine to a Rega Mira (600), and the difference wasn't compelling. I had to go all the way to a Rega Elicit (1450) to really leave the Brio behind. I've also compared the Brio to another award-winning mid-range (1200) amp and preferred the Brio.

    Lovely warm, sweet sound but also dynamic, with BAGS of get up and go - and decent levels of detail. Has a great in-built Phono stage, too.



    Quote Originally Posted by jammy56 View Post
    Hi all,

    Im just getting into my first hifi setup and am trying to decide (decode) on the amp.. Recently I picked up a pair of B&W 602 s2's along with a Pro-ject Debut III TT. The only thing that is on my list is the amplifier but I'm looking to get something around the 100-150 pricerange (new or 2nd Hand)


    In an ideal world I would look at getting a Marantz PM6003, but its just a bit too far out of my budget..

    I'm aware rotels would be a good match but buying second hand the numbers and model variations are very confusing...

    Any suggestions?
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    Sony ES or QS with phono. Built like tanks, will control your speakers so that the bass is not boomy and should last a lifetime. Should find one in budget if you have the room for it. Original Cyrus 2 also very good and you could add a PSX later but at double the cost.
    If you find a Myst in budget they are stunning but not sure with your speakers. Others may advise.

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    Marantz pm 7200 , sounds great ran in class a mode. Comfortably within budget.
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    I'd second the Brio recommendation, but whatever you get, enjoy your first hi-fi!!

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    I started out with a Cambridge Audio 640A (widely available 2nd-hand within your price range) that I enjoyed with a vinyl source, but think the Brio may be better if you can find one. (The CA amp will need a phono stage)

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    Thank you for the replies. Yep gunna have to have to be integrated

    The Brio looks like a good option, but there fairly few and far between. Only a couple on ebay and a bit out of my price range...

    I did see som pm7200's age136, but I think they are just a bit big for me right now, I'm fonder of the thinner amps.

    Around my travels on this forum I checked out the classified and cam across an Rotel RA-02. I'm very tempted to pick it up. They look great, and should (?) match well. Also has a headphone out which I am keen on...

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    Arcam A65/A75/A85 would be quite nice too I think. Nice and slim.

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    Quad 99 CDP2 >> Pass B1 Pre >> XTZ Desire AP-100 >> PMC DB1S+

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    With B&W 602s I would steer clear of Rotel amps unless you like bright presentation. I listened to 603s, 602s and 685s with Rotel amps and found it quite fatiguing to my ears.

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    If you can't stretch to the Brio (try!), I agree the Cambridge 640a is a good bet. I started on the hi-fi ladder with Cambridge stuff and was very happy, great value for money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butuz View Post
    Arcam A65/A75/A85 would be quite nice too I think. Nice and slim.

    Butuz
    An excellent recommendation - warm, detailed but without sounding too laid back or clinical. The phono stages are pretty decent in them too, going by my experience with the FMJ A18. Any of those 3 would be a good buy. Build quality is excellent too!
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    I would go either for a Topping TP20 or TP60 for about 45 or 140 respectively from the well known auction site.

    Second hand, probably a Sony ES as mentioned elsewhere in this thread. I would also suggest Armstrong 625, 626 and 623 receivers and amp.

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    a nad c320bee, totally rocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by googleborg View Post
    a nad c320bee, totally rocking
    Another excellent choice - ran one of those for a few years and found it really enjoyable.
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    Second hand creek4040 .....? 50 or s and often available s/h

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    creek does seem to get amazing reviews
    arcam is very reliable and i rather like their build quailty too
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    Pioneer A400 or A400X. Often crop up on ebay. They have phono stages in them so no need for a seperate phoono pre-amp, but if you go tone a thte right price you may have cash left for one of the phono stages Jerry mentions in this...

    http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread...ized-vinyl-rig
    What ever amp you are after, put up a wanted int eh private classified for it and also keep an eye on ebay.

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    Heard an Audio Innovations Alto at Phil's bakeoff at the weekend.I understand these can be bought used within your budget.Cracking amp,and as a few folk have said,makes you wonder why you would spend more.Might even get one myself for a second system.

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