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    Hire Car Report: VW Passat 2.0 BlueMotion diesel estate

    It's not exactly an exciting car, so I'll keep it brief:

    GOOD

    Ride - very comfortable and soaked up the worst of the Midlands' road surfaces with ease.
    Seats - again, very comfortable
    Gearchange - sweet, accurate
    Stereo - Sound quality good, DAB actually worked for nearly 8 minutes before hiccupping!

    BAD
    Loudspeaker positioning - tweeters in the dash and the front of the rear doors meant that, with my seat back far enough (I'm 6'3") the left channel was coming from the far side of the windscreen and the right from behind my ear. Very odd.
    Electronic Handbrake - Annoying and you have to have your foot on the footbrake to use it. Is the human race now too stupid/weak to use a normal handbrake or have we gone in the other direction and evolved past the use of simple levers?
    Engine - BlueMotion diesel. Quiet enough but completely gutless. Not sure it actually had a turbo. It also averaged 47mpg on a gentle-ish 400 mile motorway jaunt. Is it me, or is that a bit shit for a gutless 2 litre oil burner, when my much perkier old Mondeo could crack 50mpg when driven like a lunatic and boasting only 5 gears rather than 6? Opinions welcomed..
    Privacy Glass - WHY?? It makes the already dark interior even gloomier and is like driving a bloody van.

    AMUSING
    Gearchange indicator -
    I was comfortably ascending a gradual incline in 4th at 40mph with the instantaneous fuel consumption showing 39mpg. The gearchange indicator said I should be in 6th so, for a laugh, I complied. The engine started juddering, I had to put my foot flat to the floor to maintain 40mph, and the fuel consumption figure dropped to 22mpg. That works well, then....

    VERDICT

    Actually quite a nice car, pleasant to drive and well equipped. Just make sure you buy a petrol one unless you particularly like going slowly, ignore the gearchange indicator and specify clear glass that you can actually see through properly.
    Last edited by Beobloke; 01-09-2011 at 11:39 AM.
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    Sounds like you had the SE version. My co car is the bargain-bucket S, which has see-through windows but less comfortable seats. I paid extra for DAB, which I think is excellent. I've found 3 spots where it drops out so far, two in the back lanes near my home and one half way up the M40.

    There isn't much performance, but the size and weight of the thing makes it feel slower than it actually is. The 1.6 diesel must be pathetic. I'm surprised by your economy: after 4500 miles I'm averaging 60.5 mpg, with 70 mpg easily achievable on the slow-moving M6 between Coventry and Wigan.

    I've got used to the giimick handbrake now, but not the useless handling. It feels like a boat after the MX-5! The gearchange thing doesn't work at all on hills, and following its suggestions to the letter can result in a rolling stall, with loss of power steering and brakes - nasty!
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    By coincidence I went in my colleagues new Passat Diesel Estate only yesterday but this was the S model - I think it's a higher rated engine. Plenty of room, comfortable sports seats, less inspiring interior, but when we went over a speed bump excruciating! Not much to complain about really.
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    The S model is the bottom of the range. The engine is either the 105 bhp 1.6 diesel or the 140 bhp 2.0 diesel. I have the 2.0. On paper, the performance should be about the same as the little MX-5. It certainly doesn't feel like it!

    There is a 170 bhp diesel, but only in the range-topping Sport. That also comes with harder suspension, so maybe that was the one you went in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meninblack View Post
    The S model is the bottom of the range. The engine is either the 105 bhp 1.6 diesel or the 140 bhp 2.0 diesel. I have the 2.0. On paper, the performance should be about the same as the little MX-5. It certainly doesn't feel like it!

    There is a 170 bhp diesel, but only in the range-topping Sport. That also comes with harder suspension, so maybe that was the one you went in?
    How much is the range topping "S" model John? I only ask because you can buy a Skoda Octavia VRS Estate CR170 and fully stocked with leather, sat nav and loads of other goodies for 19K
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    The Passat is more expensive than the Skoda - even my very basic "S" model (not range topping!!) was over 22k with a few extras. It is a bigger car though - uses the same platform as the Superb.

    A fully loaded Sport estate with the 170 bhp diesel, leather and all the extras will set you back over 35k

    Sadly my company car scheme offered me very little in the way of choice!
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    I happen to love mine g! (CR170!) but it does have a fancy leather interior ......




    I paid nothing near 19K for it either and it was new. My point was that in that top engine spec (CR170) I think the Passat is called a R-Line, all the added extras take it to very high price, when Skoda do the Superb or Octavia with that engine, personally the Superb Estate 4x4 with the CR170 to me is the best VFM car in the Skoda range.
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    John, do a search here for the Superb in CR170 form with DSG & or Elegance 4x4 form. A real bargain. I noticed the huge discrpeancy with VAG pricing with the CR170 engine in the Tiguan/Yeti also

    http://www.skoda.net.r66.co.uk/index.aspx
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    All very well, but the Skoda wasn't on my list! The new Passat has three trim levels, S, SE and Sport. R-Line, S-Line etc are Audi trim levels.

    If I was spending 22k of my own money and needed a bit of economy, there are loads of used Jag XF diesels for that money... I certainly wouldn't be buying German.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr View Post
    I happen to love mine g! (CR170!) but it does have a fancy leather interior ......




    I paid nothing near 19K for it either and it was new. My point was that in that top engine spec (CR170) I think the Passat is called a R-Line, all the added extras take it to very high price, when Skoda do the Superb or Octavia with that engine, personally the Superb Estate 4x4 with the CR170 to me is the best VFM car in the Skoda range.
    Brings a whole new meaning to the expression "the cheap seats"

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    Mibby, what does the "Bluemotion" bit mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnniebaby View Post
    Brings a whole new meaning to the expression "the cheap seats"
    what do you drive?
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    It's the VW fuel-saving package: engine stop/start, regenerative braking, skinny tyres and various other economy wheezes. Works pretty well, 60 mpg out of a huge barge-like car is not bad!
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    Love the black and grey leather. I had shoes like that in the 80s....
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr View Post
    what do you drive?

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    Nice choice. Much less gay than the EOS.
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    Being Japanese the electric roof will work as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meninblack View Post
    The S model is the bottom of the range. The engine is either the 105 bhp 1.6 diesel or the 140 bhp 2.0 diesel. I have the 2.0. On paper, the performance should be about the same as the little MX-5. It certainly doesn't feel like it!

    There is a 170 bhp diesel, but only in the range-topping Sport. That also comes with harder suspension, so maybe that was the one you went in?
    Sorry confused it was the Sport. Lowered suspension etc. Still a Passat though!
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    I can confirm that the back seats are spot on for dogging!
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    These sound just like any TDI, remap them however and you have 190hp, 300lb/ft of torque. I wouldnt spend 22k on one though I would just buy an a6 3.0tdi, the engine these passats should have come with.

    My car is effing gutless and needs a remap but I cant afford it at the moment.
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