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    I ran a CX for a couple of years - surprisingly painless. You are screwed if the hydropneumatic suspension breaks, mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezzer View Post
    I used to think beemers were sporty until I drove a 911.

    I'll get my coat...
    I used to think 911s were sporty, until I drove an Elise.

    I agree with mibby, there's no way a 5 series is sporty. Way to heavy to be called a sports car, even an M5 is a lardy thing. Try taking one round the ring and you'll see what I mean. It's like wrestling an angry pig.
    Last edited by i_should_coco; 25-11-2011 at 12:38 PM.
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    Coco-san speaketh the truth. Back when exec barges were 1,300-1,400 kgs and closer to 4.5 than 5 metres, claims of them being a 'sports saloon' could be taken halfway seriously in some cases. Now they're as large and heavy as your average 1970s American land yacht, no chance in h*ll...

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    I used to think Elise's were sporty until I drove a Caterham...

    Most sporty Beemers currently in production: 1 Series M Coupe, Mini Cooper S John Cooper Works.
    Last edited by Jezzer; 25-11-2011 at 12:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezzer View Post
    I used to think Elise's were sporty until I drove a Caterham...


    And then I bought a bike.
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    Bikers:

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    Gosh, that's just like mine, if I screw my eyes up...
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    Lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by s2000db View Post
    Gosh, that's just like mine, if I screw my eyes up...
    It's the same colour isn't it?
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    Modern cars seem to be aping modern people, constantly getting heavier. There's no way a car of this weight, fitted with any engine, can be considered sporty, it would have to defy physics for it to happen.

    One of the most "sporty" cars I've driven, believe it or not, was a bog standard 1.1 106, incredible feedback through the unassisted steering, amazing ability to control the cornering line with the throttle (lift-off oversteer in abundance) and just a ridiculous ability to carry corner speed, I used to be able to keep up with all manner of things simply because they were having to scrub so much speed off on every corner. Sadly I tried the 16v Saxo version and didn't like it, the power steering just sapped all feedback and massively reduced cornering confidence, yes it was about 5 times as fast but I found it 10 times less fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezzer View Post
    It's the same colour isn't it?
    Yup...
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    Engine's in the same place, too. You'd have thought they'd fix that cockup.
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    At least they drive the right wheels.

    Thats German efficiency for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_should_coco View Post
    Engine's in the same place, too. You'd have thought they'd fix that cockup.
    They did, initially. Then they reckoned they could sell more of 'em if they placed an unuseable rear bench in front of the rear axle instead of an engine...

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    lol!
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    Rubbish, that's where you put your golf clubs !
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    A two litre diesel van with windows possibly laden with four lard arses. What do you expect, how would your Passat perform similarly laden?

    Sent from my mobile, excuse all typos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete the Feet View Post
    A two litre diesel van with windows possibly laden with four lard arses. What do you expect, how would your Passat perform similarly laden?

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    It would be worse - but it doesn't pretend to be a sporting saloon and I don't pretend it's not shite!

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