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    It's interesting to compare originals against remasters. Looking at NIN - Pretty Hate Machine, orig 13db, remaster 6db. I'm surprised Einsturzende releases are 'relatively' poor, i always got the impression they were better. Extensive database though, Covenant, APB, VNV, SP, FLA all included.
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    I downloaded the app to do some submissions but it appears to only do mp3 and wav files, although it's odd because the submission form has flac in the list. I also can't find the log file it creates
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    I find the vst plugin works well with your daw of choice..mine is sequoia.

    Joshua judges Ruth and aic unplugged are two modern faves as well as ray Lamontagne till the sun turns black
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    That's a hugely useful link!!

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    I just found this site and did a quick search before i posted a link myself....i was going to suggest the link should be a sticky in the what's happening section....it's an invaluable resource for people with interests such as ours!

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    Now that's very interesting ~ thanks for the link Rep added.

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    Thanks TR. Very useful stuff
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    That is interesting.


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    One thing that I found interesting is that early cd editions often have a better dynamic range than vinyl rips of the same album....at least at some point in time someone took advantage of the medium!

    Kinda depressing that some early editions with superior DR are lost to the mists of time/stupidly expensive

    Anyone know of examples of reissues that, despite compressed DR, sound better than earlier issues due to better transfer or whatever? I guess DR isn't the only measure of SQ?

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    Very interesting link, and rather depressing to see how the later remasters gradually ruin the DR. I'd always found the early REM albums easier to listen to, turns out the later albums were mostly crushed to death.

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    what the hell? yalld be late to your own damn funerals. i posted this last year, dumbasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncdrawl View Post
    what the hell? yalld be late to your own damn funerals. i posted this last year, dumbasses.

    And WTF is going on - there hasnt even been the obligatory 'Holy Thread Resurrection Batman' post either!
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    [QUOTE=NAM;1307097]One thing that I found interesting is that early cd editions often have a better dynamic range than vinyl rips of the same album....at least at some point in time someone took advantage of the medium!

    Kinda depressing that some early editions with superior DR are lost to the mists of time/stupidly expensive

    Anyone know of examples of reissues that, despite compressed DR, sound better than earlier issues due to better transfer or whatever? I guess DR isn't the only measure of SQ?[/QUOTE]

    Thats an interesting point NAM. Maybe Teddy or Serge can shed some light on what else, besides DR, makes for a good recording.
    Not knowing a lot about this but wouldnt DR also be quite dependant on the type of music recorded in the first place?
    I mean surely a solo female voice isnt going to have the same DR as a full Orchestra.
    Or is the DR indicated on the linked site relative to the recorded instrument/voice? (does that make sense?)
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    [QUOTE=hearingisbelieving;1307796]
    Quote Originally Posted by NAM View Post
    One thing that I found interesting is that early cd editions often have a better dynamic range than vinyl rips of the same album....at least at some point in time someone took advantage of the medium!

    Kinda depressing that some early editions with superior DR are lost to the mists of time/stupidly expensive

    Anyone know of examples of reissues that, despite compressed DR, sound better than earlier issues due to better transfer or whatever? I guess DR isn't the only measure of SQ?[/QUOTE]

    Thats an interesting point NAM. Maybe Teddy or Serge can shed some light on what else, besides DR, makes for a good recording.
    Not knowing a lot about this but wouldnt DR also be quite dependant on the type of music recorded in the first place?
    I mean surely a solo female voice isnt going to have the same DR as a full Orchestra.
    Or is the DR indicated on the linked site relative to the recorded instrument/voice? (does that make sense?)
    Yeah, i guess the obvious one is all out blasting metal where everything is going at the same volume full speed ahead....but i remember someone mentioning on here before that a transient like a drum beat may require more energy to attain the same subjective (and more 'realistic') 'volume', because of the short duration...and I guess that information is encoded in the waveform as a higher amplitude relative to the average dB....and equating to a higher dynamic range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hearingisbelieving View Post
    And WTF is going on - there hasnt even been the obligatory 'Holy Thread Resurrection Batman' post either!
    If I hadn't bothered to search before posting, I wouldn't have ressurected the thread ;)

    I really do think this link should be a sticky of some sort though! It's so relevant to our interests (or should be, at least)

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    [QUOTE=hearingisbelieving;1307796]
    Quote Originally Posted by NAM View Post
    One thing that I found interesting is that early cd editions often have a better dynamic range than vinyl rips of the same album....at least at some point in time someone took advantage of the medium!

    Kinda depressing that some early editions with superior DR are lost to the mists of time/stupidly expensive

    Anyone know of examples of reissues that, despite compressed DR, sound better than earlier issues due to better transfer or whatever? I guess DR isn't the only measure of SQ?[/QUOTE]

    Thats an interesting point NAM. Maybe Teddy or Serge can shed some light on what else, besides DR, makes for a good recording.
    Not knowing a lot about this but wouldnt DR also be quite dependant on the type of music recorded in the first place?
    I mean surely a solo female voice isnt going to have the same DR as a full Orchestra.
    Or is the DR indicated on the linked site relative to the recorded instrument/voice? (does that make sense?)
    Good recording..well it depends on the type of music.

    classical/acoustic criteria

    Tonal Accuracy- a cello shouldnt sound like a harpsichord

    Venue- Engineer should take the audience to the performance space...I should be able to ascertain with aural cues the size/scale of the location. one thing I do in order to help this aspect... In addition to the main pair, I will place another pair out in the venue where the audience is, facing the OPPOSITE way (ie away from the instruments and angled up) and mixed several dBs down from the main mix...it really gives the "being there" feeling.

    placing the instruments in the right area in the soundstage(audience perspective).

    Mic placement-- everything should not be equally loud. Timpanis should sound as if they are coming from the back, not in a line with the strings...

    Low Noise of course- but for some(ie me) noise is forgivable(depending on type)

    edit points should not be noticable. recording should be cohesive/hole rather than a sum of "sections" (which is how engineers work these days)


    tuning of course!


    In my opinion, the absolute PINNACLE of Redbook CD sound is found in these titles..(all criteria above are met and then some!) http://www.amazon.com/Verdi-Gheorghi.../dp/B000066C6K

    http://www.amazon.com/J-S-Bach-Oster...osteroratorium

    http://www.amazon.com/Lauridsen-Aete...cm+lux+aeterna

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Lily-Lamb-...y+and+the+lamb

    http://www.amazon.com/Henryk-Gorecki...orrowful+songs

    http://www.amazon.com/Arvo-Part-Te-D...ywords=te+deum

    http://www.amazon.com/Rachmaninoff-S...nce+recordings


    http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Stri...tring+quartets

    http://www.amazon.com/Brahms-Complet...lips+duo+beaux


    for non classical/acoustic or rock/pop...

    songwriting

    emotional /visceral impact

    there are no sound criteria..imo as it is a piece of art itself, rather than a reproduction of some composers work... all things like "tone", accuracy, soundstage, etc...
    not relevant.

    just needs to have emotional impact...make me FEEL...that is done through arrangements, songwriting, and engineering,and instrumentation of course(and record medium)
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    [QUOTE=hearingisbelieving;1307796]
    Quote Originally Posted by NAM View Post
    I mean surely a solo female voice isnt going to have the same DR as a full Orchestra.

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    Just been browsing the database by year, click column heading to sort. There really is some shameful stuff out there. 3dB of range by The Mars Volta. LOL.

    Compare 2011/2012's releases with the vinyl where they have it recorded. That's why I bought a record player!!
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