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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdur View Post
    The Antimode is a digital volume attenuator, I always run them at max and attenuate the system normally. What is it like with the pre removed?
    The noise is a white noise hiss and increases directly proportionately to the Antimode's volume level. At -10dB I can still hear it from a few metres away. At around -15dB it starts to become acceptable. Changing the Qute's analogue output volume makes no difference to the level of the hiss. Any ideas?

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    Best to contact the dealer you purchased it from John, he should give you the support you need. If not give me a ring and I'll try to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rangutan View Post
    The noise is a white noise hiss and increases directly proportionately to the Antimode's volume level. At -10dB I can still hear it from a few metres away. At around -15dB it starts to become acceptable. Changing the Qute's analogue output volume makes no difference to the level of the hiss. Any ideas?
    Set mine up recently via an M-Dac, but I couldn't turn the volume up enough without clipping, ready to take it back but did a google search and I found someone else with the same problem and I too had forgot the volume control. So I turned up the volume but I found the same as you, so for now I have turned the volume to where I can't hear the hash. So now I can get the volume I like, however I was hoping to take the M-DAC out of the system and just use the AntiMode. I'll have to try it but if the hash ia a problem it may stop my plans so if you get any more information I would be interested to hear it.

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    I am still confused about where I could put it in my system so that it room-corrects for all sources.
    My system's sources are: (i) analog tuner or (ii) cd transport feeding a separate Weiss Dac 202 DAC or (iii) Mac mini firewired to Weiss DAC
    These are fed by RCA cables in the case of (i) and by analog XLR cables in the case of (ii) and (iii) to a Bent Audio passive pre using S&B transformers (or another Bent TAP-X using the slagle transformers) .
    The passive pre then feeds (via analog XLRs) a Behringer dcx2496 which is used as an active crossover for my electrostatics.
    The behringer then feeds (via two pairs of analog XLRs) a pair of Magtech amps - one for the ESL woofers and one for the ESL panels.
    Leaving aside issues of overkill (too many units in the signal path, and possibly using the behringer to do room correction instead although it requires more fiddling) , I thought the antimode dual could be used (amongst many other things) as a pre with connections to several sources (according to the downloadable manual) but the manual also says that the XLR inputs and RCA inputs must not be connected at the same time, so that would mean I could not connect the tuner (RCA) and the DAC (XLR) to the RCA and XLR inputs at the same time and select between the two inputs, so I couldn't replace the passive pre with the antimode and use the antimode as a normal pre with multiple inputs?. If that is the case I would have to put the antimode between the passive pre and the behringer, as the antimode only has one pair of RCA outputs or XLR outputs.

    Jack (or anybody else) can you advise please and apologies if I have missed something obvious? As to the overkill issue, I am interested in the antimode as I might want to use it in another system anyway but would like to know if I can use it in my main system outlined above.

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    Well I'd be interested to see what answers come back, if that was my system I would put it between the passive pre and the Behringer. That is because it appears the passive pre passes on all the signals. So you would have xlrs into the Antimode and then feeding out to the Behringer as the Antimode reads and tunes the room not the individual components.

    There is also the simple bypass button (orange one on the remote) so you can switch the correction in and out to more clearly hear the difference. It only take a couple of minutes to connect it in the system and 10-15 minutes to run the set up you can always tweak and play around with the settings later.

    One thing I found is that when I first set it up I couldn't get the volume I wanted before it started clipping. A google search reminded me I'd forgot the Antimode has a volume control so gradually turned this up so I get the volume I want without clipping. It's easy to connect or take out of the system so I'll be interested to see how you get on.

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    Ill take a look through these posts later guys and get you answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volante View Post
    I am still confused about where I could put it in my system so that it room-corrects for all sources.
    My system's sources are: (i) analog tuner or (ii) cd transport feeding a separate Weiss Dac 202 DAC or (iii) Mac mini firewired to Weiss DAC
    These are fed by RCA cables in the case of (i) and by analog XLR cables in the case of (ii) and (iii) to a Bent Audio passive pre using S&B transformers (or another Bent TAP-X using the slagle transformers) .
    The passive pre then feeds (via analog XLRs) a Behringer dcx2496 which is used as an active crossover for my electrostatics.
    The behringer then feeds (via two pairs of analog XLRs) a pair of Magtech amps - one for the ESL woofers and one for the ESL panels.
    Leaving aside issues of overkill (too many units in the signal path, and possibly using the behringer to do room correction instead although it requires more fiddling) , I thought the antimode dual could be used (amongst many other things) as a pre with connections to several sources (according to the downloadable manual) but the manual also says that the XLR inputs and RCA inputs must not be connected at the same time, so that would mean I could not connect the tuner (RCA) and the DAC (XLR) to the RCA and XLR inputs at the same time and select between the two inputs, so I couldn't replace the passive pre with the antimode and use the antimode as a normal pre with multiple inputs?. If that is the case I would have to put the antimode between the passive pre and the behringer, as the antimode only has one pair of RCA outputs or XLR outputs.

    Jack (or anybody else) can you advise please and apologies if I have missed something obvious? As to the overkill issue, I am interested in the antimode as I might want to use it in another system anyway but would like to know if I can use it in my main system outlined above.
    By the sounds of it the Antimode would connect between your pre and the Behringer as you describe.
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    Jack, thanks for the feedback but am i right in thinking that although the antimode can act as a pre in certain systems it could only be connected to several sources at the same time via its (i) optical, (ii) usb and (iii) EITHER RCA or XLR inputs (i.e. one couldn't have the XLRs connected to one source and the RCAs to another source at the same time and toggle between the two). if this is correct I guess this is because its main function is room correction etc and it's not trying to be a full function pre with sources connected to all inputs - which is fine - but it can be used as a pre (and a DAC) to some extent. It's clearly a very useful component as it performs several functions.

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    Absolutely right, I advise customers to think room correction 1st and the pre and Dac as a bonus addition, that said many people have done away with their existing pre amplifiers and Dacs and are more than happy with the Antimode in that facility!
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