Audio Emotion Purite North  Epiphany Acoustics 
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 48

Thread: Lumix G3

  1. #21
    A cartridge needs 6 pins pmac's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     12,413
    Location
     Co Durham
    Real Name
     Paul
    Turn Table
     StSt Motus II
    T/Arm & Cart
     Io Ltd/AN Arm 3
    SUT/Phono
     SFz/Aurorasound Vida
    Speakers
     Tune Audio Prime
    Pre Amp
     M7
    Power Amp
     CocoSIT/Canary300B
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Thanks guys, all opinions/advice/criticisms are truly appreciated
    You don't need a reason...

  2. #22
    Wammer grimep's Avatar
    Join Date
     Dec 2009
    Posts
     1,137
    Location
     Surrey, United Kingd
    Real Name
     Graham
    Digital Source 1
     Quad CDP-2
    Integrated Amp
     Quad 909 & 99s
    Speakers
     PMC db1
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    I spent about 2 weeks going round and round in circles researching every camera there is out there, fell in love with the micro 4/3rds concept and the G3 is best of the Pannys. I've tried the Sony that wins all the tests on image quality (due to it having the largest sensor of a mirrorless) and I just dont like the fact it physically. I even considered superzooms/bridges, but they don't offer me any real advantages over my compacts. I concluded that Mirrorless Interchangeables are ok, but they're just a bit too wee, like DSLRs made for children. Kinda pricey too, once you factor in the essential 2 or 3 lenses. So really its a compromise over a proper DSLR.

    Decided to keep going with my 6 year old compact...
    Last edited by grimep; 07-06-2012 at 09:37 PM.

  3. #23
    Super Wammer macvisual's Avatar
    Join Date
     Mar 2008
    Posts
     3,361
    Location
     Scotland
    Real Name
     peter
    Turn Table
     Dual 504
    T/Arm & Cart
     AT440MLa
    Digital Source 1
     Digitally Tubed
    DAC
     Tube DAC (DIY)
    Integrated Amp
     A&R Alpha
    Speakers
     Audioplan Kontrast
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Can I ask what a 'bridge' camera is please? Might it be inbetween a compact camera and a full size dslr?
    "Progress is not possible without deviation".

    Frank Zappa

  4. #24
    Up the hammers ADPully's Avatar
    Join Date
     Oct 2007
    Posts
     3,819
    Location
     Witney
    Real Name
     Andy
    Turn Table
     Trans-fi ish
    T/Arm & Cart
     Trans-fi- IO
    SUT/Phono
     David Wright
    Digital Source 1
     Ipod
    Digital Source 2
     no
    DAC
     Jolida
    Integrated Amp
     no
    Speakers
     DIY
    Pre Amp
     David Wright
    Power Amp
     Various
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    The Lumix G3 and the Sony NEX5 are the main contenders. They are compared side by side here.
    http://snapsort.com/compare/Panasoni...ny_Alpha_NEX-5
    If you do like the feel of the Sony it may be a better bet because it does in theory beats the Lumix - Top level It has a 60% larger sensor but is more compact.
    Drilling down 20% better IQ is the potential result and if you are cropping a lot this is is important.
    But its a balancing act and better IQ is of no value if you are more often going miss the moment, also critical esp for birding or street photography is which of these cameras is quickest on the draw? The Lumix does have a viewfinder and less shutter lag and these should help capture more moments. If you are an exSLR person a viewfinder is going to be very intuitive to you and this may well be the compelling reason why the lumix is for you.

    Regarding your idea of the 2x convertor whilst 1200mm sounds great but will limit as you. At F11 theres a quarter of the light going in as there is at f5.6 you will either have to up the ISO two stops from normal or settle on 1/4 of the shutter speed to get the correct exposure, most likely a tripod is going to be mandatory for a sharp snap.This could be workable for slow birds such as ducks and waders on a but less viable for that dartford warbler you have just flushed out of a bush.

    Buying the camera on spec and blind is a risky business I do recommend that you find a decent independent dealer to help you decide.
    Last edited by ADPully; 08-06-2012 at 03:08 AM.
    Ipod Pure I-20; Jolida DAC, Transcendent SE OTL; Ultracurve digital cross over and disco amp for bass, Speakers DIY 3 way Open Baffle, Hawthorne 15"Augie, Audio Nirvana, PHY 8"er or Fostex FF225K and RAAL 140-15D and a DIY deck Trans-fi based

  5. #25
    Super Wammer tkimages's Avatar
    Join Date
     Jun 2006
    Posts
     5,290
    Location
     St Helens
    Turn Table
     Gyro SE
    T/Arm & Cart
     Technoarm/DL160
    SUT/Phono
     Whest
    Digital Source 1
     Meridian G08
    Digital Source 2
     Sonos
    DAC
     In the speakers
    Integrated Amp
     In the speakers.
    Speakers
     Meridian DSP5200
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Quote Originally Posted by ADPully View Post
    Buying the camera on spec and blind is a risky business I do recommend that you find a decent independent dealer to help you decide.
    Top notch advice, you really do need to handle any camera you may think of buying. When I decided on adding a MFT camera to my stuff, it boiled down to the Olympus EPL2 or the Panasonic GF2. Half an hour in Jessops playing with both showed that, for me the, EPL2 was the one best suited for my needs.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by macvisual View Post
    Can I ask what a 'bridge' camera is please? Might it be inbetween a compact camera and a full size dslr?
    Correct, most often with a non interchabgeable wide range zoom lens.

    Tillman
    http://www.tkimages.co.uk

    Marj, my wife and best friend, says my passions are obsessions.

  6. #26
    A cartridge needs 6 pins pmac's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     12,413
    Location
     Co Durham
    Real Name
     Paul
    Turn Table
     StSt Motus II
    T/Arm & Cart
     Io Ltd/AN Arm 3
    SUT/Phono
     SFz/Aurorasound Vida
    Speakers
     Tune Audio Prime
    Pre Amp
     M7
    Power Amp
     CocoSIT/Canary300B
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Quote Originally Posted by ADPully View Post
    The Lumix G3 and the Sony NEX5 are the main contenders. They are compared side by side here.
    http://snapsort.com/compare/Panasoni...ny_Alpha_NEX-5
    If you do like the feel of the Sony it may be a better bet because it does in theory beats the Lumix - Top level It has a 60% larger sensor but is more compact.
    Drilling down 20% better IQ is the potential result and if you are cropping a lot this is is important.
    But its a balancing act and better IQ is of no value if you are more often going miss the moment, also critical esp for birding or street photography is which of these cameras is quickest on the draw? The Lumix does have a viewfinder and less shutter lag and these should help capture more moments. If you are an exSLR person a viewfinder is going to be very intuitive to you and this may well be the compelling reason why the lumix is for you.

    Regarding your idea of the 2x convertor whilst 1200mm sounds great but will limit as you. At F11 theres a quarter of the light going in as there is at f5.6 you will either have to up the ISO two stops from normal or settle on 1/4 of the shutter speed to get the correct exposure, most likely a tripod is going to be mandatory for a sharp snap.This could be workable for slow birds such as ducks and waders on a but less viable for that dartford warbler you have just flushed out of a bush.

    Buying the camera on spec and blind is a risky business I do recommend that you find a decent independent dealer to help you decide.
    Thanks Andy, all good advice. The Sony sounded like a contender, until I read the review, no viewfinder I couldn't even consider a camera without a viewfinder.

    You are quite right, of course, it would be crazy to buy on spec's & reviews. I will, no doubt, find a dealer close to me and try it "in the hand"

    Cheers
    You don't need a reason...

  7. #27
    Wammer
    Join Date
     Feb 2007
    Posts
     949
    Location
     Coppull, Chorley
    Real Name
     Rob
    Turn Table
     Rega P5/2M
    Digital Source 1
     Mini Droplet
    Integrated Amp
     Cyber 100
    Speakers
     Dulcet
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    I really couldn't get on with the G3 from an ergonomics perspective. A few photographers on here seem to get on well with it which is great and we are all different.

    If you want to read more see here of my experience and thoughts on the camera. Owners may want to ignore this! http://wp.me/p1hetB-ce

    The Fuji X-S1 looks good if you want a camera with a viewfinder and a decent range zoom.

    Finally, I agree with the others when they say to get into a camera shop and have a feel of each of the cameras. Helps enormously.

    Cheers,

    Rob
    Last edited by Rob; 09-06-2012 at 09:21 PM.

  8. #28
    A cartridge needs 6 pins pmac's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     12,413
    Location
     Co Durham
    Real Name
     Paul
    Turn Table
     StSt Motus II
    T/Arm & Cart
     Io Ltd/AN Arm 3
    SUT/Phono
     SFz/Aurorasound Vida
    Speakers
     Tune Audio Prime
    Pre Amp
     M7
    Power Amp
     CocoSIT/Canary300B
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Thanks Rob!

    I've found a local dealer and hope to get there next weekend to try it out
    You don't need a reason...

  9. #29
    Wammer grimep's Avatar
    Join Date
     Dec 2009
    Posts
     1,137
    Location
     Surrey, United Kingd
    Real Name
     Graham
    Digital Source 1
     Quad CDP-2
    Integrated Amp
     Quad 909 & 99s
    Speakers
     PMC db1
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    This probably sounds like the stupidest advice ever given anywhere but, don't laugh... my local PC World has a large stock of cameras all on display where you can handle them to your heart's delight, without the hassle of sales people confusing you with their "opinions". I popped down to give all the micro 4/3rd Lumixes a good groping the other day. I soon realised that the camera I'd set my heart on after doing all the research was not the camera for me. So at the risk of losing all credibility.. can I recommend PC World!

  10. #30
    A cartridge needs 6 pins pmac's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     12,413
    Location
     Co Durham
    Real Name
     Paul
    Turn Table
     StSt Motus II
    T/Arm & Cart
     Io Ltd/AN Arm 3
    SUT/Phono
     SFz/Aurorasound Vida
    Speakers
     Tune Audio Prime
    Pre Amp
     M7
    Power Amp
     CocoSIT/Canary300B
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Yep, that's a good idea, thank you!
    You don't need a reason...

  11. #31
    WAC Confederate Barney's Avatar
    Join Date
     Oct 2009
    Posts
     11,007
    Location
     North West Cheshire
    Real Name
     Barry
    Turn Table
     Pimped Rega P3/24
    T/Arm & Cart
     RB301 - 2M Black
    SUT/Phono
     Pure Sound P10
    Digital Source 1
     Cambridge Audio 752
    Digital Source 2
     Sony CX 355
    DAC
     CA 752
    Integrated Amp
     Rega Mira 3
    Speakers
     Acoustic Energy 305
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    John Lewis have a huge range on display that you handle.

  12. #32
    purplepleaser
    Guest
    Hi Paul

    I have a G3 with the kit lens and the 20mm prime, coming from a Canon 5d and some of the best lenses ever made it does feel like a toy. What I bought it for it will have to do for now. I have not pushed the camera at all, I am sure it would be good for birding with a long lens just the fnumber will be quite high so a tripod might be a must. I would have a look on the miro43thirds forum for some shots or on flickr to get some idea of the shots capable.

  13. #33
    A cartridge needs 6 pins pmac's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     12,413
    Location
     Co Durham
    Real Name
     Paul
    Turn Table
     StSt Motus II
    T/Arm & Cart
     Io Ltd/AN Arm 3
    SUT/Phono
     SFz/Aurorasound Vida
    Speakers
     Tune Audio Prime
    Pre Amp
     M7
    Power Amp
     CocoSIT/Canary300B
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Thanks Lee, It is it's light weight, small size and decent range of (reasonably priced) lenses that attract me. I must have something portable to carry alongside the bins, 'scope and tripod (which can double up for camera too)

    I've read a few reviews and the image quality seems acceptable. I am not looking for shots to publish, rather "record shots" of birds I have seen or found.
    You don't need a reason...

  14. #34
    purplepleaser
    Guest
    Yes, I am tempted with the 100-300 just because its reasonably cheap and the image quality looks great 600mm for not much more than 600 quid. The size is great for me, especially the little prime, in time i will buy the power 14-42 zoom for the size.

    Overall I am really chuffed with what the G3 can do.

  15. #35
    A cartridge needs 6 pins pmac's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     12,413
    Location
     Co Durham
    Real Name
     Paul
    Turn Table
     StSt Motus II
    T/Arm & Cart
     Io Ltd/AN Arm 3
    SUT/Phono
     SFz/Aurorasound Vida
    Speakers
     Tune Audio Prime
    Pre Amp
     M7
    Power Amp
     CocoSIT/Canary300B
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Then add a 2x teleconverter and you have 1200mm lens. OK, as someone mentioned earlier it would be F11 min. but in bright conditions and ISO 800 it shouldn't be out of the question to get some reasonable results
    You don't need a reason...

  16. #36
    Super Dooper Wammer rockmeister's Avatar
    Join Date
     Jul 2005
    Posts
     14,972
    Location
     scotland
    Real Name
     john
    Turn Table
     Palmer2.5
    T/Arm & Cart
     SME M2-9, Benz SL wd
    Digital Source 1
     Luxman CD 05
    Integrated Amp
     Luxman SQ 38u
    Speakers
     Harbeth sHL5
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Paul, like all things, I'm sure you'll adapt it to get the results you need. Digiscoping is a great idea if you simply want to produce a clear visual record of your birding list. Maybe just check with your telescope maker that they do an adaptor for the G3, and your away.
    still just watching clouds

  17. #37
    A cartridge needs 6 pins pmac's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     12,413
    Location
     Co Durham
    Real Name
     Paul
    Turn Table
     StSt Motus II
    T/Arm & Cart
     Io Ltd/AN Arm 3
    SUT/Phono
     SFz/Aurorasound Vida
    Speakers
     Tune Audio Prime
    Pre Amp
     M7
    Power Amp
     CocoSIT/Canary300B
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Would, if I could John, but I downsized my scope from a Leica to a Minox, for weight/size considerations and I don't think the Minox (good as it is, for it's size) will be up to digiscoping, unlike the Leica.
    You don't need a reason...

  18. #38
    Super Dooper Wammer rockmeister's Avatar
    Join Date
     Jul 2005
    Posts
     14,972
    Location
     scotland
    Real Name
     john
    Turn Table
     Palmer2.5
    T/Arm & Cart
     SME M2-9, Benz SL wd
    Digital Source 1
     Luxman CD 05
    Integrated Amp
     Luxman SQ 38u
    Speakers
     Harbeth sHL5
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    sorry, and you said that earlier in the thread too apologise!
    still just watching clouds

  19. #39
    A cartridge needs 6 pins pmac's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     12,413
    Location
     Co Durham
    Real Name
     Paul
    Turn Table
     StSt Motus II
    T/Arm & Cart
     Io Ltd/AN Arm 3
    SUT/Phono
     SFz/Aurorasound Vida
    Speakers
     Tune Audio Prime
    Pre Amp
     M7
    Power Amp
     CocoSIT/Canary300B
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    You don't need a reason...

  20. #40
    A cartridge needs 6 pins pmac's Avatar
    Join Date
     Aug 2005
    Posts
     12,413
    Location
     Co Durham
    Real Name
     Paul
    Turn Table
     StSt Motus II
    T/Arm & Cart
     Io Ltd/AN Arm 3
    SUT/Phono
     SFz/Aurorasound Vida
    Speakers
     Tune Audio Prime
    Pre Amp
     M7
    Power Amp
     CocoSIT/Canary300B
    Headphones
     
    In the Hi-Fi industry?
     No
    Had a good play around with a G3 today. Feels well made and I didn't find it too small, for my hands anyway.

    Got to say that I was impressed. Unfortunately they had no tele lenses to try, but I am hoping to get to do that in a week or so. Looking a likely buy, I think
    You don't need a reason...

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •