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    Quote Originally Posted by wizons View Post
    Thank you sir. Is this proof that I am not entirely deluded!
    Put it this way, if any cables can have an audibly different subjective effect on how your system sounds, these two are up there with Van den Hul's spark-plug leads in being likely candidates!

    If nothing else it demonstrates that the "nothing makes any difference" brigade are as guilty of credulously stupid oversimplification as the "faeries-in-the-wires" mob are of self-delusion

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    I have decided on the matter.

    Cables can make a difference.

    It's hard to prove scientifically and when it cannot be shown so perhaps it is because they are considering the wrong things.

    I'm sure of it and I'd trust my half deaf ears rather than anybody's mantras.

    However, unless we're talking diagmetrically opposed designs, keep the descriptions of differences in perspective, or you'll get caught up in your own imaginations and flowery BS - magazines take note.

    - - - Updated - - -

    And it's all too expensive - to the point of comedy.
    Last edited by Cloth-Ears; 15-06-2012 at 12:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloth-Ears View Post
    I have decided on the matter.

    Cables can make a difference.

    It's hard to prove scientifically and when it cannot be shown so perhaps it is because they are considering the wrong things.

    I'm sure of it and I'd trust my half deaf ears rather than anybody's mantras.

    However, unless we're talking diagmetrically opposed designs, keep the descriptions of differences in perspective, or you'll get caught up in your own imaginations and flowery BS - magazines take note.

    - - - Updated - - -

    And it's all too expensive - to the point of comedy.
    IMO its one of the great moments we all strive for. When you get that illusion of individual instruments appearing audible outside of the normal focal point of your speakers. My left one iseems more pronounced than my right one, but thats a whole different ball game
    Last edited by gazar; 15-06-2012 at 02:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazar View Post
    IMO its one of the great moments we all strive for. When you get that illusion of individual instruments appearing audible outside of the normal focal point of your speakers. My left one iseems more pronounced than my right one, but thats a whole different ball game

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    The OP's question is just an aspect of 'do cables make a difference'? Having studied a number of threads on the subject, the overwhelming conclusion is that they may or may not, depending on whether said contributors have or haven't heard it. Hope this helps.

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    Look to be absolutely sure that you've got the best possible cables, from a technical point of view, that will do the best job for you hifi under 'normal conditions'..

    Then just buy QED79 strand or something similar... nothing will sound better, only worse....!!
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    Subjectively/objectively, all is perceivable/impossible.

    As long as you ensure that your power-amp section-loudspeaker system is correctly connected wirily safely (contact manufacturers...), you for your money can believe your hearing etc in your audio etc etc context.
    'Sometimes via the senses, mostly in the mind' (or pocket)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizons View Post
    Well, I have heard speaker cables change the sound of a system. I really don't care what some people claim about this as I've heard it and I challenge any wammers with a measuring meter to disprove what my ears tell me. Of course, there is a limit to how far the cable obsession can go and some retailers/manufacturers exploit people.

    The problem with the Wam is that once you say this you are viewed as a screaming, swivel eyed fundamentalist. You are a brave man for posting this message.
    He's brave allright, considering he's been around for 3 years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chumpy View Post
    Subjectively/objectively, all is perceivable/impossible.

    As long as you ensure that your power-amp section-loudspeaker system is correctly connected wirily safely (contact manufacturers...), you for your money can believe your hearing etc in your audio etc etc context.
    Brilliant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdur View Post
    He's joking OB
    phew...you just never know with Duv! (or any wammers to be honest!)
    John Peel said, "Life is full of surface noises." Obviously he never heard my rig!

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    hifi cabling is (almost!) up there with man induced global warming, Y2K and the banking crisis as the biggest financial scam of our time

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    Have you tried cable lifters?
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