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    Quote Originally Posted by s2000db View Post
    Glad that you and I are making sweet music together..

    I trust that this new purchase will keep you from feelimg down, and will uplift your spirits like no other....
    Oooh yeah. With every additional minute of divine sound the Elicit is pushing out, the pain I felt from the stress of the last 12 months of hard slog is melting away.


    Oh and btw it needs a bigger knob!
    Yeah, 'Dana''s knob needs more length. Then again, I do like its tidy dimensions.


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    ps: get back to you later BB. My attention is being monopolized by something really royal right now.
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    Playing with Dana's knob, many a Gerrards Cross Housewife's Dream.

    Cheers BB

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSM View Post
    Wow, 'DANA' and I are going to live together happily ever after.
    Hmmm....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tones View Post
    Hmmm....
    You just know it'll end in tears...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tones View Post
    Hmmm....
    Oh Tones, I dunno how you could live with your dumpy 606 for over two decades. Its successor the 909 has great midrange resolution and impressive slam for orchestral tuttis, but its an inept weakling when called upon to delineate walking jazz basslines IMO. I've just played some Michael Buble - in "Me and Mrs Jones" the plucks on the double bass were rendered by the Elicit in such a highly articulate and legible way that I could hear how the double bassist was playing the notes with a wry seductiveness that complimented the lyrics of the song. Shivers down the spine moment!!! On this song, the 909 just mumbled its way through the basslines. Its 'control' over the deep bass is of a thud-thud-thud monotonal quality, I'm sad to say.

    This is quite a gulf in musical expression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2000db View Post
    You just know it'll end in tears...
    'Dana', in the event we decide to split, I'd let you know now that I will not fight for custody of the panda.

    SS
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    More than likely the Quad just didn't think it was worth making the effort to express the non-music of Michael Bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikedefacto View Post
    More than likely the Quad just didn't think it was worth making the effort to express the non-music of Michael Bubble
    Aw c'mon, you yourself admitted a couple of pages back that you found your own 909 limited at the frequency extremes. Don't bring the quality of Buble's pasta-bar music into contention.

    Besides 'Me and Mrs Jones', other jazzy tracks featuring star turns by the double bass were reproduced deliciously, like Diana Krall's "My Love Is" and Erykah Badu's "Certainly". 12 hours running and the Elicit already exhibits such prowess in taut bass control. I wonder if it gets any better...

    Soundstaging just gets deeper by the hour. I'm continuing to listen until dawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSM View Post
    'Dana', in the event we decide to split, I'd let you know now that I will not fight for custody of the panda.

    SS
    Too right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSM View Post
    Aw c'mon, you yourself admitted a couple of pages back that you found your own 909 limited at the frequency extremes. Don't bring the quality of Buble's pasta-bar music into contention.
    I just couldn't resist having a pop at Mr Shitbubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSM View Post
    Oh Tones, I dunno how you could live with your dumpy 606 for over two decades. Its successor the 909 has great midrange resolution and impressive slam for orchestral tuttis, but its an inept weakling when called upon to delineate walking jazz basslines IMO. I've just played some Michael Buble - in "Me and Mrs Jones" the plucks on the double bass were rendered by the Elicit in such a highly articulate and legible way that I could hear how the double bassist was playing the notes with a wry seductiveness that complimented the lyrics of the song. Shivers down the spine moment!!! On this song, the 909 just mumbled its way through the basslines. Its 'control' over the deep bass is of a thud-thud-thud monotonal quality, I'm sad to say.

    This is quite a gulf in musical expression.

    SS
    Solid, dear boy, amplifiers do not, repeat, not, do musical expression, they merely amplify electrical signals, and they all do it pretty much the same as any other, with the occasional minor (and generally completely insignificant) difference. You are hearing what you want to hear. Or the volume levels were different (it's amazing how often a slight difference in volume is characterised as "more dynamic"). However, I for one would never deny you the right to enjoyment of your honestly-held beliefs. And I find your single-handed support of the entire Tipocan hi-fi retail business wholly admirable.

    Tones, the notorious non-audiophool
    Last edited by tones; 19-09-2011 at 10:12 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSM View Post
    Actually, it wasn't that close amongst the five. The Elicit cleaned up the other four IMO.

    The Rega dealership had changed hands since my first demo of the Elicit in June. The new dealer claimed to have given the showroom Elicit a very thorough run-in. I had the Saturn cdp and Naim-Focal 807V Chorus for the June demo and the Rega DAC and ATC SCM11 for last Thursday's demo. I was expecting to hear something similar but when the first sounds emerged it was like I got hit by a freight train. The soundstage was so deep and wide and open and the performers within it were so lifelike, it was a big shock to my mind and its pre-expectations. I wanted to buy the Elicit immediately.

    The Rega demo was second-last before the Destiny 2, which I saved for last because as a previous Creek EVO owner I thought it will be The One. Wrong! Although the Destiny 2 impressed me with its strengths, it didn't approach the Elicit's ability to make music sound so very life-like.

    Wow, 'DANA' and I are going to live together happily ever after.

    My Elicit is still running in and I have read online and been told by the dealer that it needs 150+ hours for the many quality discrete components inside to break in. Despite that, I'm already hearing signs of greatness emerging.
    That's the first unequivocally positive review I have ever read about the Rega Elicit, anywhere. Have Rega been toying with it "behind the scenes", I wonder...? Am curious to hear one now, I must admit.

    Pleased to see the Nait XS ran it close, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tones View Post
    Solid, dear boy, amplifiers do not, repeat, not, do musical expression, they merely amplify electrical signals, and they all do it pretty much the same as any other, with the occasional minor (and generally completely insignificant) difference.
    Another way of putting this is all amplifiers do, repeat, do take something away from the original signal. When demanding speaker loads are involved there is something more taken away from the original signal. The amps that let the most through are the ones with the most musical expression, but some are intentionally coloured to try and emulate said expression.
    British Hi-Fi.

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    No wonder Tones has owned his audio stuff for as long as his stuffy beliefs.
    In my case, it's very simple. The Elicit comes into the same setup vacated by the 909. Playing familiar music reveals the Elicit's superior control in the bass region, again and again.

    Too bad I was too busy enjoying my music I used the term 'musical expression' instead of 'technical prowess'. That gave Mr Excitement the Patent-Checker an opportunity to...

    I still adore the 909 but I can tell you it has been sidelined permanently by the Elicit.

    SS
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonR View Post
    That's the first unequivocally positive review I have ever read about the Rega Elicit, anywhere. Have Rega been toying with it "behind the scenes", I wonder...? Am curious to hear one now, I must admit.

    Pleased to see the Nait XS ran it close, though!

    No complaints about the XS, Jon, it's a great amp. The Elicit is not a Naim-clone though FYI, it is pacey too but more fluid. Its deep soundstage compared to the XS's simply won me over.

    There are already half a dozen favourable pro reviews of the Elicit about on the interwebs. I like this line from ToneAudio best: "What fools you into thinking that you are listening to much more expensive gear is the tonality that this amplifier provides." Cryptic praise, but now that I got the Elicit in my own system, I get the whole gist of it. Every area in the frequency spectrum exudes a 'wow!' quality.

    I have to qualify my earlier write-up about the Creek and Arcam having the best tops. Orchestral cymbals and jazz hi-hats have been bowling me over. Just looked at the manual - the Elicit's frequency response goes right up to 62kHz which complements the ELAC Jet III's 50kHz. Of course my human ears can't perceive up to this limit but the system's treble is now so clean, detailed and confident, the decision of both Rega and ELAC to extend their kHz reach into super territory must be helping this performance.

    SS
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSM View Post
    Soundstaging just gets deeper by the hour. I'm continuing to listen until dawn.SS
    OMG NO, NO, NO.....................are you seriously saying that SS components have a run-in period?!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Strat View Post
    OMG NO, NO, NO.....................are you seriously saying that SS components have a run-in period?!!!!!
    Yeah.

    The first hour from new was horrendous; AWOL treble, muffled midrange and woolly bass. It brought on an attack of buyer's remorse and doubt. Gradually the treble began lighting up (like the first stars in th galaxies after the Big Bang), the fog lifted from the midrange and bass tightened up. I chip and change kit more often than you finish up a bag of bog-rolls, so I'm telling you that run-in is for real.

    Thank heavens it wasn't the XS, or else I'd have to listen to a month of bad music before it came on song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSM View Post
    Thank heavens it wasn't the XS, or else I'd have to listen to a month of bad music before it came on song.SS
    A good friend has recently gone from a 5i to XS - not good when first out the box but was soon on song. Rega amps go very well with vinyl................how about a pink P3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Strat View Post
    A good friend has recently gone from a 5i to XS - not good when first out the box but was soon on song. Rega amps go very well with vinyl................how about a pink P3?
    With the rega DAC around, I don't need an actual turntable. It was to be the Dana II, or Mini Dana I was supposed to bring home as well yesterday. (Had asked the dealer Thurs to put a black one aside for me.) But the rega DAC purchase is deferred for a while. I'd brought my rDAC to try on the showroom Elicit yesterday to see how much of a difference the two DACs made. Hmm...

    Will say more when I squeeze out the rDAC report; if I'm not too distracted by the music.

    SS
    CONRAD-JOHNSON HD3 & ET3SE > SUN SV-2A3 L.E. 25th Anniv. SE Class A | NAIM DAC V1 > C-J CLASSIC 60SE PP
    PRIMARE DAC30 > AYRE K-5xeMP > 6V6GT SE Class A | audiolab M-DAC
    > ICON AUDIO LA4 MKIII > EL84 SE Class A
    MUSICAL FIDELITY X-T100
    (modded valve pre) > GENESIS Advanced Tech. M60 (& I60) PP | PRIMARE A34.2 Class D
    OMEGA SUPER ALNICO & 3i Monitors |
    PRECISION 6.2, ELAC BS244, ATC SCM11, S3/5R, Alnico, XERO, DM 2/6, Q 2020i
    SS relics: REGA ELICIT, ARCAM A38, Musical Fidelity X-A2, NAIM NAP 100, QUAD 909, SONY TA-F246E | (reserved)

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