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    box swapping your thoughts on this

    im thinking of getting rid of my audiolab m-dac and my exposure xxv integrated and getting the cyrus 8xpd, whats the thoughts on this?

    would this be classed as an upgrade or more of a side step?

    my speakers are usher cp 6311

    thanks

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    More of a downgrade.
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    swapping that would be a waste of money I think and even though I am not a fan of Exposure or Audiolab I think this would be a downgrade. Any reason you want the 8XPD. Your money could be spent better. Do you likle the sound you have? If so why change. If you are after a better sound then you are looking in the wrong place.
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    Get to some bakeoffs! Box swapping without knowing what direction you want to go is pointless.
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    All pretty uninspiring. The Cyrus is certainly no upgrade.

    At 87db the Ushers need a bit of welly have you thought about something like a Jungson JA88D?

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    Downgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ View Post
    Downgrade.
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    I assume you chose the Cyrus based on an audition? Did you audition with your speakers and digital source?
    If not i would recommend listening to a short list before deciding and taking your current gear with you for direct comparisons.
    Its too easy to hear a decent sound in isolation (during a short demo with no comparision to existing equipment) and convince yourself its better.

    My son has a Cyrus 8VS2 connected to some little Pro Acs and they make a great sound together, very clean, tight, a little bright but not too bright. I would not discount the Cyrus but I equally would not buy it until I had listened to alternatives especially considering everyone else's feedback here.

    Good Luck

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    I bought a Cyrus CD8X cdp on a whim - I just fancied trying the brand. (I am quite well known in some parts as a box swapper. )

    I was really surprised how good it was!

    I reckon you will be doing an upgrade in important ways going from your Audiolab MDAC to Cyrus, based on my Cyrus CD8X experience.

    Treble will be smoother and more naturally detailed - I find the MDAC to be too forward and a tad grainy in the upper frequencies. The Cyrus got it right and was beautiful tonally, a real "wow moment" when it first started playing, lovely.

    Soundstage and imaging will be much better and more natural - the CD8X had fantastic imaging, really 3D. The MDAC doesn't come close to that, imo.

    It's the bass and overall dynamic envelope where you might find a shortfall. The Audiolab gear does big dynamic swings really well! And the bass is deep, controlled, powerful and very articulate.
    The Cyrus CD8X bass was tight and controlled, but quite lightweight.
    And while very competent dynamically, it can't compete with the MDAC.

    Swings and roundabouts!
    Just my 2-penneth based on my own experiences and preferences using the same and probably similar kit.
    Last edited by JANDL100; 14-11-2012 at 07:44 AM.
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    The MDAC is a staggeringly good piece of kit....as a pre too.... that and the Opals have confirmed for me that 16/44 is indeed a very fine format.
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    What is it in terms of sound you are looking for, with the intended upgrade?

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    Isn't it funny how people jump to a conclusion that a particular product would be a backward step without being able to back it up with evidence from a proper listening session - I'm not saying you guys have not listened to Cyrus equipment but at least Jerry has experienced ownership. I sometimes wonder if the somewhat and at times strong anti Cyrus views around here (and in other hi-fi fora) are based not on genuine experience but on the fact that it tends to look like a lifestyle product rather than a "serious hi-fi". I haven't heard anything by Cyrus for about 8 years when it lost out to the green neon after extensive demos but I wouldn't mind betting that matched with the right speakers in right room it would be a truly great musical experience. Strat

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    You really need to borrow the Cyrus and compare it to your current set up, in this economic climate a dealer should provide this service,
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Strat View Post
    Isn't it funny how people jump to a conclusion that a particular product would be a backward step without being able to back it up with evidence from a proper listening session - I'm not saying you guys have not listened to Cyrus equipment but at least Jerry has experienced ownership. I sometimes wonder if the somewhat and at times strong anti Cyrus views around here (and in other hi-fi fora) are based not on genuine experience but on the fact that it tends to look like a lifestyle product rather than a "serious hi-fi". I haven't heard anything by Cyrus for about 8 years when it lost out to the green neon after extensive demos but I wouldn't mind betting that matched with the right speakers in right room it would be a truly great musical experience. Strat
    I have nothing against Cyrus gear at all. Had a lot over the years with the Streight line and DADIIIQ24 being awsome bits of kit for the money and beat off far more expensive gear. But what the OP wants to do is a side step and possibly a down grade. That's what I was pointing out.
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    I had a cyrus 8vs2 and found detail was very good but found the sound a bit lightweight alot of people like the overall projection , personally I feel cyrus would be different rather than better , so a sidegrade , however you may prefer the cyrus sound . Imo their cd players are the best sounding products

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    In my time I have owned a Cyrus 8vs2 Integrated Amp, a Cyrus Pre 8vs2 (with two X power power amps) and a Cyrus DAC XP (with two Mono Xs) and I have loved them all, and each one was a noticeable step-up from my previous set-up. Can't really comment on your question, but if you like the Cyrus sound, go for it. Having said that, there are some exceptional value DAC XPs about at the moment, keep your eyes open for one

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    Quote Originally Posted by bricktop View Post
    im thinking of getting rid of my audiolab m-dac and my exposure xxv integrated and getting the cyrus 8xpd, whats the thoughts on this?

    would this be classed as an upgrade or more of a side step?

    my speakers are usher cp 6311

    thanks
    as a long term member of the cyrus forum seems to me you are swopping 2 separate boxes for a very small one with all the compnents shoved together in a small box. surely a damm good dac and an damm good amp are best kept apart sonically and practically
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    Quote Originally Posted by bricktop View Post
    im thinking of getting rid of my audiolab m-dac and my exposure xxv integrated and getting the cyrus 8xpd, whats the thoughts on this?

    would this be classed as an upgrade or more of a side step?

    my speakers are usher cp 6311

    thanks
    I would class it neither.

    I would say that if you currently have a bathroom in your house, then it would be like taking a pneumatic drill to it, demolishing the whole lot, setting fire to the remains, then in future taking a shit in a bucket placed in the smouldering ruins.

    Just my opinion, mind you.
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but Iím not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabski View Post
    I would class it neither.

    I would say that if you currently have a bathroom in your house, then it would be like taking a pneumatic drill to it, demolishing the whole lot, setting fire to the remains, then in future taking a shit in a bucket placed in the smouldering ruins.

    Just my opinion, mind you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hearingisbelieving View Post
    Dont try and sugar-coat it Rich
    I did, but the truth would have been unpalatable.
    I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but Iím not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant.

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