I ve listened to a 30w Accuphase A36 and it was both gorgeous and incredibly powerful
Had to google that one (not very familiar with any Accuphase models) ... lush! I didn't actually know they did power amps. Are they rare?
I ve listened to a 30w Accuphase A36 and it was both gorgeous and incredibly powerful
edit: found this https://signals.uk.com/brand/accuphase/I couldn't say because i am not in the UK. I imagine there should be a distributor but can't tell for sure. It is Japanese brand and made in Japan.Had to google that one (not very familiar with any Accuphase models) ... lush! I didn't actually know they did power amps. Are they rare?
pass labs and aleph and first watt are original amps made by nelson pass firm
joe henry is a lovely chap on eBay who makes imitation clones that are very good indeed . a fraction of the original but of course they sell for a lot less second hand
Yes, Accuphase offer a range of Class A power amps and integrateds too.Had to google that one (not very familiar with any Accuphase models) ... lush! I didn't actually know they did power amps. Are they rare?
if you buy them cheap enough yes . he is getting quite a good reputation . the chap i that mine came from had 12 made by him and several folks i know including the moderator of the proac forum are on 2nd or 3rd generation of amps from him [ they have bought 3 times ] .Are the joe henry amps still easy enough to sell on should the need arise, and hold their value fairly well?
For the avoidance of doubt as they say: the generous Mr Pass has licensed many of his (typically earlier) designs. So we’re not talking dodgy knock-offs here; in fact, in Joe Henry’s case, far from it. The difference between clones is the quality of components and of engineering obviously, and Joe is right up there reputation-wise.pass labs and aleph and first watt are original amps made by nelson pass firm
joe henry is a lovely chap on eBay who makes imitation clones that are very good indeed . a fraction of the original but of course they sell for a lot less second hand
This differs profoundly from my experience of Class A amplification, and is a very misleading generalisation - certainly not an accurate description of any Pass or Sugden designs I have had the pleasure of listening to - perhaps a "synergy" issue? I've never actually heard any Accuphase gear, though, so perhaps they're a bit more pipe and slippers - cue angry mob of offended Accuphase owners brandishing pitchforks....My only issue was its slightly soft sound (but this is typical of Class A)
Interesting that you mention Sugden as I had a Masterclass FPA-4 Class A power amp for a while in my system. Frankly, compared with several other amps I was auditioing with my Avantgarde speakers (including the excellent Accuphase), it was a serious disappointment and a non-starter - my auditioining notes were left at "flat sounding". It may be worth mentioing that this Sugden model was from their up-market Masterclass line, but it was discontinued in 2019. Maybe it just wasn't one of Sudgen's best offerings and derserved to be discontinuedThis differs profoundly from my experience of Class A amplification, and is a very misleading generalisation - certainly not an accurate description of any Pass or Sugden designs I have had the pleasure of listening to - perhaps a "synergy" issue? I've never actually heard any Accuphase gear, though, so perhaps they're a bit more pipe and slippers - cue angry mob of offended Accuphase owners brandishing pitchforks....
I don't think anyone should be under the impression that an item bought from any one-man band who sells through eBay will keep its value in the way a top branded item will. Granted these guys don't have the overheads, but they don't have the R&D either and when they are gone (retire, sell up, die) the owner is scratching around for someone to fix it if it fails.For the avoidance of doubt as they say: the generous Mr Pass has licensed many of his (typically earlier) designs. So we’re not talking dodgy knock-offs here; in fact, in Joe Henry’s case, far from it. The difference between clones is the quality of components and of engineering obviously, and Joe is right up there reputation-wise.
Regarding price @hiacedrifter , unless anyone has evidence to the contrary, I’d suggest that the value of Joe’s creations will be broadly in line with the hifi market ie prices will start at 50% of the price the first/original owner paid. If you look at sold, rather than asking, prices you’ll see that as a general guide this isn’t far off. Cue wammers highlighting exceptions! Which is why I don’t think I’ve ever bought stuff brand new at RRP.
I would agree with you that many hifi companies have a leader who is regarded as top man and many of these companies are named after their founder / principle designer.A great many companies are not far short of being one-man bands in this industry, and the irony of the suggestion here is that if any hifi company could be described in those terms, then Pass Labs would be it.
We disagree. Strongly.I don't think anyone should be under the impression that an item bought from any one-man band who sells through eBay will keep its value in the way a top branded item will. Granted these guys don't have the overheads, but they don't have the R&D either and when they are gone (retire, sell up, die) the owner is scratching around for someone to fix it if it fails.
Reckon on a VERY LOW resale value, even if the guy is still in business. As far as I can see JH used to make clones / copies (call them what you will) of Quad 303 amps. but would anyone buy a used one? No, but a used NAD or Quad or Sugden or Pass Labs of that vintage - yes. Sorry but let's be realistic.
You appear to be completely missing the point. These are not Joe’s own designs, they are tried and tested amps based on “open source” blueprints. Joe is not the only person making them, he just happens to have a reputation as one of the best at doing so.I would agree with you that many hifi companies have a leader who is regarded as top man and many of these companies are named after their founder / principle designer.
The successful ones go on to develop popular products that are sold worldwide through distributors and dealers. They have matured into viable companies that employ many people, usually including other directors, designers, an R&D department, marketing guys, etc. These are the companies that can "afford" to lose their figurehead leader and remain viable and successful companies, run by other directors.
Mark Levinson, Sugden and numerous other companies have successfully continued after their founders go to pastures new. A one-man band is just that. It is unlikely to find success after its leader departs if it hasn't succeeded financially (apart from providing an income for its owner) during his tenure. By that I mean that it hasn't flourished to the point that it employs sufficient other senior staff to continue almost unaltered, it will just disappear to a footnote in the hifi history book.
I suspect that one or two of the companies you mention will effectively fold if and when their head man leaves. Who is there to take the reins? Sadly often no one. These outfits may be bought up by bigger rivals, but there’s often nothing really worthwhile to buy. The contents of a garage and (if the owner actually owns them) the patents of the designs are unlikely to be snapped up.
This of course doesn’t change the fact that many exceptionally good amps, etc are designed by very clever small scale builders who are often content to carry on their “cottage industry” business with no real ambition for it to continue after they retire or just shut up shop. I’ve owned a couple myself, but the brand enjoys a remarkably good reputation, it doesn't peddle their wares through eBay, and demand has always outstripped supply, so they retain their value very well.
Pass Labs Class A amps prices start at £4800 (XA25), I think and resell for £2900 - 3500 (asking prices per HiFiShark). Not bad for an amp that may be several years old.most Pass creations are on the attractive side of £2,000.