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  1. Mike, I am no expert on this stuff. I did take two electronics classes in high school and survived two years studying electrical engineering before switching majors, so I have a general idea. Your tests are interesting. What you are doing is hunting for a negative to prove a point. That is fine. Most people will perform tests to solve a problem. Where this heated (at times) discussion has moved to seems to be a YMMV point scoring excercize that really is not solving a real issue for most users. From what I have read most manufactures of power amps, etc (the heavy stuff) recommend plugging thier components straight into the wall. Most systems in a typical equipment rack will have a bunch of supporting boxes. These need power which often means a shortage of electrical wall outlets. Basic power strips serve this need. Better strips and conditioners might have specs and results for better more reliable safe service and protection against lightning storms and unpredictable power surges. The notion that you can tweak the sound with such devices is obviously debatable. Is this even desirable? Could it be that this entire industry is built on nonsense? I really don’t think so? But if I wanted to spend $2000 on improving my system I would much rather buy a better turntable cartridge or add to a phono stage budget before buying a fancy power cord? Speaking of phono stages: these seem the most vulnerable (along with turntable power supplies) to proximity with power cables? I read a 30 page long thread on the Huffman forum on fancy phono stage upgrades and the discussion drifted into power cables, shielding, noise, conditioners, etc. As you would expect there were lots of strong opinions! One guy’s approach impressed me. He seemed to be a serial box swapper and owned a lot of gear. He built his equipment rack for easy box swapping and testing. He created different paths up and down the rear of the rack for power cables, interconnects, data cables, etc. The organization and care that cables did not touch or cross each other was impressive. The intent was to establish a proven base standard without noise that help testing different kit. He could then swap amps and phono stages (his main interest) and compare them more efficiently. From the photos it looked like he was not using any crazy expensive cables or conditioners. Just one approach of course. Mike, it would be interesting to see what impact testing cable placement would have on your analog kit in your system? Cheers! Max
  2. That Ambeo weighs more than 40 pounds, which is pretty serious for a sound bar. Overkill for most family needs, but a real option for those wanting the best sound quality without adding unwanted speakers around your room. Some will argue that any sound bar is a compromise: they will never deliver the full surround experience. My own personal view is that serving both music (audio) and TV (video) needs with the same equipment is also a compromise with music enjoyment paying the price.
  3. One of the reasons people buy Linn components is the “Linn Sound”. People pay a lot of money for this. Linn has a reputation for quality engineering and manufacturing. Consistency! I would prefer it if there was NO CHANGE in the sound by simply swapping in a different power cord. If the sound changes then my view is this is a bug and not a feature. There are enough variables in selecting the gear itself...
  4. I guess this is just one of those classic “YMMV” arenas. I have read accounts of successful mains cord upgrades. I have also read accounts of satisfaction upon returning to the stock manufacturer’s cord. I am assuming “made from a mixture of metals melted down from scrap, using poorly soldered joints” is not referring to the included manufacturer cords? If that were true then how could you trust Linn’s (or any maker) system that costs thousands of dollars if they went so cheap on a basic component that needs to be totally safe like the power cord? Nelson Pass was asked about power cords. He said the factory Pass Labs cords were perfectly fine but was ok with users trying other cords so long as they met all safety standards. Makes sense to me...
  5. Just the other day I was thinking about creating a thread that would have suggested that Paul is not a real person! Rather a calculated fake character designed to be a cunning Linn spending catalyst. What is the term kids use now? A web/media “influencer” ? But I then remembered that some of you actually know Paul, so I canned this thread idea. And now he goes and creates this “no more upgrading for me” thread ??? I give him ten days before he caves...
  6. A friend of mine ordered a new Innuous Zen server/streamer for his Roon system. It took just nine days to get from Portugal to Seattle. Just saying...
  7. Ahh, you might have missed the agreement to buying the new added Linn Sea Salt Krystal upgrade !
  8. Wow! https://en-us.sennheiser.com/ambeo-soundbar?syz_chnl=001&gclid=CjwKCAjw_sn8BRBrEiwAnUGJDqU6XvQ74w1jJ4nZniYrzMZLr7K1Jzfk0g8VGH-1krkwNXEeo9n-6hoCnUAQAvD_BwE
  9. Mike, I totally get it. I have a Majik DSM in front of a Pass Labs preamp and Class A power amp. I love the sound. But the “craziness” made me buy an Akurate DS. I also sprung for the Katalyst upgrade which seems to be slowly crossing the Atantic in a row boat...
  10. Very interesting flurry of posts! I am sure Linn has to account for the extra R&D, parts costs and manufacture costs when they set prices for the upper tier expensive kit. The Linn product line is a steep pyramid when it comes to costs. And then there is marketing. One wonders how much discussion went into the physcological aspect of setting distinct price tiers with massive asking price differences? We like to call the Majik system the “gateway drug” to seriously expensive Linn offerings. Does the huge price gaps create a sense of added desire, a sense of lustful “unobtanium” that will eventually induce crazed Linnies into spending tons of cash? One wonders if this helps or hinders keeping Linn owners tightly in the fold with little or no mixing with other audio brands? Consider some of the prices that David outlays above: serious money with serious gaps in the pricing structure. There is A LOT of really great gear by other high end manufacturers at these price points. The other factor is that you have more options for pinpointing expenditures on different boxes (while achieving good balance between components) if you open up your scope to brands beyond Linn.
  11. Years ago I was chatting with a Linn dealer about the old Linn forum and the slow building volcanic pressure that helped with its demise. He laughed and offered “one of the main problems with the Linn Forum was that too many of its members thought they knew more about sound than Linn engineers...”
  12. Agreed, everything is a compromise. Building a dedicated home theatre is one thing. Adding decent TV sound in the living room for casual family use is another...
  13. I will offer up a different view if I may? A freind of mine has a major combined McIntosh home theatre and two channel audio system. Complex and expensive. His processor became obsolete. The video and sound standards evolve so quickly. He tried to update his system without spending a fortune but to get the latest and greatest to match a new 4K tv but he spent a fortune on a processor that does all kinds of heavy lifting. But he admits the requirements for the tv has impacted his music listening and his bank account. On a different forum I read a long thread on the issues of serving two masters (surround video and two channel audio) with the same speakers and hardware. What I learned here was that this can be tricky. The robbing Peter to Pay Paul scenario. One school of thought was to build the perfect two channel audio system that becomes a long term investment. And then add a cheaper video surround system using AV receivers/processors than can be replaced more frequently as the technology evolves. There was lots of chatter on the merits of this idea. But this is one way to stay more current with the tech without spending a fortune? We live in an era where disc media is dying. Local rental stores that you used to visit for planned movies on BlueRay or Dvd discs are gone. It’s mostly streaming now. I stream Netflix and Amazon Prime. There is some decent stuff to watch here but there is a ton of junk as well. I thought about adding a surround speaker system or using my two channel speakers into a system. In my case that would mean moving my two speakers from the best listening position to either side of the tv which sits in the corner. I gave up this quest. There was just no way I was going to compromise my music listening to satisfy the demands of adding sound to casual TV watching. In the end I added a new SONOS Soundbar beneath the TV. Once I used the room control app to measure the sound and set a profile I was amazed at how good the sound is while watching football or Netflix, etc. I have zero regrets or thoughts of adding a multiple speaker system since. The SONOS has worked flawlessly. And zero compromises or crazy expense incorporating my music system with the TV. Of course everyone’s room and family preferences will differ. But go audition the three variants of SONOS Soundbars. You might just decide this is a solid clean solution...
  14. Love the idea of an Exaktbox Selekt: buy as many channels as you need for major flexibility.
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