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i heard the rotel cd11 recently and it was not bad at all . bit irritating having to put fingers underneath cd to pop it out the tray . i have a 6007 which i love mechanically and its incredible value but its worth looking for something better maybe like this https://www.avforums.com/threads/denon-dcd-1600ne-sacd-and-cd-player.2396571/

one of our good members has the 507ux and i enjoy listening to it with some floorstanders .

ah thats a lovely set up. might change my mind on amphion now i have seen that . not sure how they would be close to the wall . i would spend your 5k on better amps as they are lovely speakers . or you could go to active atc40 which is what some have done .

kerr have gone up massively since they were launched . B&W always worth a listen . just do loads of demos . If I had to buy some floorstanders n9ow it would be the 3ls amphion .

well I have the argon 3s and the amphion one here. they are very very good . i have tried about 6 amps with them and finally got them singing with a very modest BC pre 3 and an arcam power amp. vey very good indeed . here they are

heard some orphidian briefly at dealers and they were impressive . Thats a very big budget for speakers . May i mention the amphion 3ls floorstanders ? the amphion range are pretty good . lovely imaging and really fill a room . lovely snap and attack and go in any room . I have some 3s standmounts at the moment on demo and man are they singing !! they are just delightful !! spendor is a safe best too . well known and loved by many

agreed 100%

thanks a good question tony . I have never compared the two although was tempted by a second hand leben 300 recently . it would be interesting to see . i am sure they both have more than enough power for easy drive speakers . stereophile said this about power ratings of 404 Though the 404 Reference's maximum power is specified as 50W into 8 ohms (17dBW), using our definition of clipping, which is when the output's percentage of THD+noise reaches 1%, fig.4 indicates that the amplifier clipped at 39.5Wpc into 8 ohms https://www.stereophile.com/content/moonriver-404-reference-integrated-amplifier-measurements personally i like the looks of both amps and could live with both happily . just i need an amp with a remote so for me the 404 wins out .

I would be asking a wilson dealer about that maybe

agreed . get paul knipester to make you some

Tannoy legacy hard to get at the moment . Focal kanta.....well that's an acquired taste !! Fyne audio are successors to tannoy in Scotland. Proac might be best option as you know them already

Try the little audio co , I am sure he will sort you a black one . David f . He is a member on here too You will find him in amphion owners thread

Yes the moonriver is really lovely , sadly my demo 404 ref has got to go back tommorrow which is sad I like it as no valves in it but still sounds very un hi fi I was wondering as you say whether the 300 could drive a d2 but seems they like it Heard crimsondonkey leben c600 ( who started this thread) and it was rather delightful. If it had a remote it might be a consideration

interesting to see one proac d2 user enjoying his d2 with a leben c300 and a moonriver amp .