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  1. Harbeth consolidated their range a while back, updating all models to ‘’XD’’ (Extra Definition). But... The prices?! The P3esr is now nearly £2,500, the 30.2 £4,200. Are the improvements really reflective of that? Does this XD (extra definition) indicate that Harbeth may end up straying from what many appear to love about them, a warm, natural and non-fatiguing sound, to a brighter, more modern sound? Probably pointless me saying the above, as I’ve not even listened to Harbeths 😃 (but am certainly keen to), but it would be interested to see if anyone else has a view on them, compared to models of old?
  2. Ha, good analogy! The S40 is certainly fun. The midrange is just so fast.
  3. Not listened to the contours, how do they compare to the S40s @ChemMan?
  4. Have demoed both at length, and prefer the S40s to the R3s. Quicker, more engaging, more natural sounding, fuller midrange. But the R3s do image incredibly. I wouldn't write off the Evoke 20s though. The S40s are "better" speakers, being more detailed and slightly better rhythmically, but they're also voiced a bit more unforgivingly. Evokes are a bit softer and warmer, less spotlit detail, which can be a blessing. Part of me still hankers after some dynaudios, although expecting delivery of some Spendor 4/5s imminently, which I'm excited for. If they don't work out though, may well revisit dynaudio. Worth a demo of the S40s and evoke I'd say.
  5. Beast of an amp! Nice problem to have.
  6. Not heard the Neat Iota Alpha, although the Neat Ministra peaked my interest a while ago. Again, not listened to them, but while reviews mention how smooth and detailed the highs are, they do mention a slightly "hot" balance. Not sure whether the Alpha is similar. I'd not expect grilles to make much difference to be honest.
  7. Yeah, I suspect it'll probably be fine. Alas the demo model is on loan elsewhere, but they kindly told me to see how I get on with the new ones when they arrive, and if I don't get on with them, they can consider alternatives. Now, these are only subjective press reviews of course, but these extracts from the similarly sized Spendor A1 (55hz response) are somewhat illuminating all the same. It does suggest that raw physics aside, there have still been advances in terms of dynamics and bass response over the years: "... the immediate impression was they sound much larger than they look. They have the ability to fill a room with ease but do it in a sophisticated way. On The Fall’s ‘Live At The Witch Trials’ CD the distinction between the drums, bass and guitar was perfect. The Spendors also replayed Mark E Smith’s guttural vocals with just the right amount of bite. Switching to The Chemical Brothers ‘Block Rockin’ Beats’ the amount of bass these loudspeakers managed to extract belied their size. There is real power on offer so you don’t miss any of the low-end energy. Admittedly, there isn’t the slam of a big floorstander but I never thought there was anything missing in terms of overall bass attack from this track." " the performance of the A1 is entirely at odds with the appearance. It sounds improbably large and has a low-end extension that goes far beyond what a speaker of this configuration ‘should’ be able to do." And from a 4/5 review... " Happily, because its transient speed is so good, you can get your kicks at more realistic listening levels. Its bass may not be strong, but boy is it fast – this Spendor just powers any song along. It’s so musically enjoyable"
  8. I can imagine they'll be popular. Supply seems problematic on a number of speaker brands at the moment. I never got on with the Kef Ls50, too much upper mid glare, but respected what they could do. Liked the old R series, and the LSX. But didn't like the Ls50 or the new R series. If I was buying the new one...hmm... would probably go passive and pair it with a warmer amp. Wireless is good value and super convenient, but (if its anything like the LSX) may have a faint high pitched dog whistle from the ports, and if the electrics break within warranty, they're next to useless as whole.
  9. Yeah I'll give them a call today. Probably the sensible thing to do. I don't think it'll take long to realise one way or the other at home. Cheers all.
  10. Hmm ok, doesn't sound too promising then. Buyers remorse is part of it I guess - or just giving myself something to worry about for the next 4-weeks lead time maybe I should have pushed for a home demo, oops. That said, I think the choice is determined somewhat by the situation - mid-terraced house, not wanting anything too visually (or sonically) imposing in a bedroom setup, particularly given the girlfriend factor. Deep bass makes me squirm a bit, as I dread to think what the neighbours may think. Volumes are generally going to be low-moderate, they'll be paired with the fairly powerful Arcam SA30, which is 120W into 8ohm (closer to 160W according to HiFi News' lab report). And given they'll be spending half the time in the 2nd, smaller bedroom next door, which is 3m x 2.8m, hopefully it'll work out ok. I just expected them to have their own, unique virtues that meant people may value them over larger, ported speaker equivalents, regardless of room size. But going on the above replies taken in isolation, maybe that is not the case.
  11. So after twice demoing - and being very impressed by - a pair Spendor Classic 4/5 speakers recently, I ordered a pair. I did not however home demo, as I have demoed a number of speakers in that shop demo room, and also at home, which gave a comparative impression of what they ought to sound like at home. By way of comparison, Kef R3 had too much bass at home, Spendor A4 was too bassy and woolly at times, Dynaudio Special 40 was about right, but could boom if not in lots of open space. The diminutive Kef LSX active speakers sounded a bit small and closed in, but still great overall. The Spendor 4/5s were demoed in a shop room of maybe 3.5 x 4m with an extremely high Georgian ceiling. Probably 2.5 metres apart, and the same to my listening position. They sounded adequately full to me, and the bass was deep (enough) for my tastes; I value speed and integration of bass (which were superb) far more than depth, but still need sufficient bass so they don’t sound ‘small’ and thin. Imaging and a laid back, intimate midrange are also important. At the time, I had just assumed they were simply the entry level to the Classic series, and didn’t really pay it much attention that they were a deliberate copy, or evolution, of the LS3/5 design. i.e. they share the very same dimensions, and I presume, intended application too; near to near (ish) field listening in small rooms. This therefore puts them in a bit of a niche, along with the Harbeth P3ESR, Falcon LS3, ProAc Tablette 10, and various others. Since reading up on those sorts of speakers, reviews often mention that they are only really suited to quite small rooms, and don’t have the dynamics or bass depth to be satisfying in bigger rooms. So unless one has a small or awkward room, or must have them near a wall, one would be better off getting something bigger. In absolute terms, one could argue the bigger speaker is always ‘better’ if your room allows it. It’s just got me thinking. Do they hold their own as a standalone, proper speaker in a room of say 4 x 4.5m bedroom, which is where I will use them at home (and sometimes a 3m x 2.8m office next door), and b) notwithstanding their comparative lack of bass and dynamics in absolute terms, presumably they are also better in some ways, regardless of bigger speakers of the same ilk existing (e.g. Spendor 3/1 or Harbeth 30.1)? e.g. transient speed, bass speed, imaging, ease of placement? I’m not articulating it very well, but I suppose I’m saying that all things being equal, and hypothetically say there was a perfect medium size room, would they still have some advantages over the bigger speaker? Do people still favour them at times, even when they could easily accommodate something larger? One comfort, is that they – according to subjective reviews – go surprisingly low into the bass for their size, and there is a claimed 55hz too; substantially lower than the circa 70hz on other BBC style mini monitors. The bass driver is also 15cm. It’s tricky, as nowhere online really states what the ideal room size for them is in terms of square footage. Some say they are perfect at very nearfield of around 4ft away! Any thoughts from fellow LS3/5A style owners would be welcome. Thanks.
  12. I used to have an Arcam A19 and really liked it. Controlled, ordered sound, with great sound staging. But as the op says, it is rather laid back, slightly recessed in the mids think and lacks a bit of get up and go. Rega Elex-R or Elicit are definitely more lively in that sense. If you can stretch to it, the Arcam SA30 is fantastic in my opinion.
  13. Thanks both. I decided to check out the Harbeth 30.2 online. Oh dear, they aren't cheap, like you say! Maybe something to aspire to at some time in the future though, when money and space allow, as they sound really promising.
  14. Ah sorry I was probably a bit misleading with that. On the Spendor 4/5, the overall impression was one of smooth, unforced detail, generally silky highs. Still plenty detailed though, so bright recordings will still sound that way, but rough test tracks still seemed perfectly listenable. Certainly compared to the Special 40s, Evoke 10s, Kef R3 and Spendor A4s demoed in that same room some time ago, they came across as less forward in the treble. The crossover between woofer and tweeter seemed great too. All I meant was I was expecting the ATCs to sound unforgiving and bright in comparison, whereas in fact they were not too dissimilarly voiced, albeit were somewhat more open and revealing. Not forward, just more of an open window. I agree, the Special 40s are fantastic. Fast, toe tapping, buttery smooth treble, naturally voiced. Maybe it was just my ears, but I just found them slightly tipped up in the presence region. To me, that's "brightness", despite their smoothness. Weirdly, I also found Kef R3 very smooth in treble, but they seemed too thin and neutral in the mids (for me), and the highs had a metallic flavour to them. Good Darko article on the D7.2 and classic 1/2, sounds like they're both brilliant speakers in their respective realms. Did you find Tubes made a big difference then?
  15. Aren't the Spendor or D7s a totally different speaker to the Spendor Classic though? I thought they were deliberately voiced that way, with quite a spotlit high end, for uber resolving detail, whereas the Classic are deliberately more laid back, albeit probably more modern sounding than some BBC type monitors. They certainly didn't seem forward or especially spotlit when I listened to them yesterday, even though they were fairly detailed. It is confusing though. I've not listened to Harbeth P3ESRs for example, but the anniversary edition has actually been described as bright, which seems ironic.