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bencat

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Still not heard anything definite but as far as I know Fazakerly is still first choice .
 

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We gave a good account of ourselves tonight. Mings mistake cost us. If we had their front line we could have edged it tonight. Fine lines and moments. Futures looking bright and Liverpool will know they've been in a game.
UTV.
 

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I didn’t see the Arsenal match last night, was it as bad as the reports say?
I’m still scratching my head over the Arteta 3 year contract extension…
 
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I didn’t see the Arsenal match last night, was it as bad as the reports say?
I’m still scratching my head over the Arteta 3 year contract extension…
Soft penalty for the first goal, swayed by the home support imo, if it had been for Arsenal I doubt it would have been given. But apart from that, a naïve performance from Arsenal, a definite second yellow for Holding, and the early goal in the second half, killed the game off, and I was fearing a worse result, than 3-0.
Lets hope they can perform better at Newcastle, but they will be short of centre backs now, so it is going to be diffilcult.
 
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Not sure how I have managed this but so far in the ballot I have had a ticket to the League Cup final , FA Cup Semi Final , FA Cup Final and now the CL Final . In all cases I was not going but have split the tickets between friends and family . To date Liverpool have won all the matches without me being there so the CL tickets are going to my brother as i do not want to change a running streak (I know pathetic what fans will hang on to) . So managed to buy the ticket this morning after waiting on line since 07.35 . Hope this is a good omen .
 

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Not sure it is just me but Everton do seem to be getting the harshest of luck with the officials . Not sure that the trip with Toney should have been a red card just a yellow but I suppose it will say these are the rules. Then the player who fouls for the penalty is already on a yellow card and that foul has to be a yellow so should have been sent off and evened the numbers and the game up . Add that to the appalling lack of a penalty for hand ball in the City game and things are not going for them as they never seem to when teams are struggling. This makes getting to PL safety that bit harder but I hope they can still get over the line and get the chance to reset and rebuild for next season .
 

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I am at a loss to explain Arsenals pathetic performance last night. It was as though the importance of the match had passed them by, there was no fight or passion, no game plan. The after match interview by Xhaka, was damming, about the team not carrying out the coaches instructions, he genuinely looked baffled and crestfallen by their lack of commitment to the cause, as I am sure all arsenal fans were.

Having slept on it, and in the cold light of day, I think we would have struggled in the CL next season, and the Europa league is probably the level we are at, right now. The season has certainly been a rollercoaster, with some excellent performances, but also some inexplicable losses and performances. We have definitely improved, 5th place guaranteed, and always the possibility of a Spursy (although I doubt it) to gift us 4th, assuming we can beat Everton (on last nights form, unlikely!).
I have liked a lot of what Arteta has done so far, he has got rid of most of the deadwood, and started to give us back an identity. The fans have been behind the young team this season, and the atmosphere at the Emirates has been really good, and a pleasant change to the toxic ones, of seasons past.

Disappointed with the way the season has petered out, but overall I feel we are moving in the right direction. If you had offered me a shot at 4th, after 3 games and nil points, I'd have snatched your hand off!
COYG!
Oh and as for Piers Morgan, he can go and fornicate with himself!
 

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I am at a loss to explain Arsenals pathetic performance last night. It was as though the importance of the match had passed them by, there was no fight or passion, no game plan. The after match interview by Xhaka, was damming, about the team not carrying out the coaches instructions, he genuinely looked baffled and crestfallen by their lack of commitment to the cause, as I am sure all arsenal fans were.

Having slept on it, and in the cold light of day, I think we would have struggled in the CL next season, and the Europa league is probably the level we are at, right now. The season has certainly been a rollercoaster, with some excellent performances, but also some inexplicable losses and performances. We have definitely improved, 5th place guaranteed, and always the possibility of a Spursy (although I doubt it) to gift us 4th, assuming we can beat Everton (on last nights form, unlikely!).
I have liked a lot of what Arteta has done so far, he has got rid of most of the deadwood, and started to give us back an identity. The fans have been behind the young team this season, and the atmosphere at the Emirates has been really good, and a pleasant change to the toxic ones, of seasons past.

Disappointed with the way the season has petered out, but overall I feel we are moving in the right direction. If you had offered me a shot at 4th, after 3 games and nil points, I'd have snatched your hand off!
COYG!
Oh and as for Piers Morgan, he can go and fornicate with himself!
That’s the longest post you’ve ever wrote, I was going to post TL;DR but under the circumstances I don’t think it would have gone down to well .
Football ! What’s with it that it affects your every day life , I look at people who don’t follow it or even understand the game and think wow what a lovely life they lead .

ps. Think that’s the longest post I’ve ever wrote as well .
 
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I am at a loss to explain Arsenals pathetic performance last night. It was as though the importance of the match had passed them by, there was no fight or passion, no game plan. The after match interview by Xhaka, was damming, about the team not carrying out the coaches instructions, he genuinely looked baffled and crestfallen by their lack of commitment to the cause, as I am sure all arsenal fans were.

Having slept on it, and in the cold light of day, I think we would have struggled in the CL next season, and the Europa league is probably the level we are at, right now. The season has certainly been a rollercoaster, with some excellent performances, but also some inexplicable losses and performances. We have definitely improved, 5th place guaranteed, and always the possibility of a Spursy (although I doubt it) to gift us 4th, assuming we can beat Everton (on last nights form, unlikely!).
I have liked a lot of what Arteta has done so far, he has got rid of most of the deadwood, and started to give us back an identity. The fans have been behind the young team this season, and the atmosphere at the Emirates has been really good, and a pleasant change to the toxic ones, of seasons past.

Disappointed with the way the season has petered out, but overall I feel we are moving in the right direction. If you had offered me a shot at 4th, after 3 games and nil points, I'd have snatched your hand off!
COYG!
Oh and as for Piers Morgan, he can go and fornicate with himself!
Good po
I am at a loss to explain Arsenals pathetic performance last night. It was as though the importance of the match had passed them by, there was no fight or passion, no game plan. The after match interview by Xhaka, was damming, about the team not carrying out the coaches instructions, he genuinely looked baffled and crestfallen by their lack of commitment to the cause, as I am sure all arsenal fans were.

Having slept on it, and in the cold light of day, I think we would have struggled in the CL next season, and the Europa league is probably the level we are at, right now. The season has certainly been a rollercoaster, with some excellent performances, but also some inexplicable losses and performances. We have definitely improved, 5th place guaranteed, and always the possibility of a Spursy (although I doubt it) to gift us 4th, assuming we can beat Everton (on last nights form, unlikely!).
I have liked a lot of what Arteta has done so far, he has got rid of most of the deadwood, and started to give us back an identity. The fans have been behind the young team this season, and the atmosphere at the Emirates has been really good, and a pleasant change to the toxic ones, of seasons past.

Disappointed with the way the season has petered out, but overall I feel we are moving in the right direction. If you had offered me a shot at 4th, after 3 games and nil points, I'd have snatched your hand off!
COYG!
Oh and as for Piers Morgan, he can go and fornicate with himself!
To be honest Colin, l think we will in the league and WAFA league next year- a lot of good points, it is indeed baffling.
 
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Below is the text of an article that tries to explain why the national anthem was booed both at the League Cup final and the FA Cup Final . There has been lots made of this and some nonesense talked by those condemning the actions. This at least gives an idea what is behind this and why it is so prevalent in Liverpool . I have only copied the whole text because it is not visable on the site without paying for a subscription .

Opinion: This is why Liverpool fans boo the national anthem and this is what would stop it​


The contrast between Boris Johnson and Jurgen Klopp could not be starker. The Liverpool manager would make a great statesman. He is honest, takes responsibility, cares about people in worse situations than himself and does his best to contribute to a wider society.

The prime minister is the polar opposite.

When Klopp talks politics, it makes sense. When Johnson pontificates about football, it’s more of the same bluster that has characterised his entire career. On Monday, according to certain sections of the media, Johnson “slapped down” Klopp because the 54-year-old suggested it might be worth at least exploring the reasons why Liverpool fans booed the national anthem and the Queen’s grandson before the FA Cup final on Saturday. A spokesman said the prime minister disagreed with Klopp and called the behaviour of the supporters a “great shame”. It takes some fairly deranged spin to see this as a slap-down. Klopp probably hasn’t even noticed that he’s supposed to have been put in his place.



Like Klopp and Johnson, those who booed the anthem and those who were angered by the jeering are unlikely to find common ground. Will there ever be a time when Liverpool supporters embrace the patriotic experience?The prime minister’s spokesman talked about shame, an emotion Johnson knows little about. He hasn’t any. Or empathy. The Spectator’s attack on Merseyside when under the 57-year-old’s editorship in 2004 is well known. The editorial column said that the people of Liverpool “see themselves whenever possible as victims, and resent their victim status; yet at the same time they wallow in it”. The article went on to repeat lies about Hillsborough.

What is less well known is Johnson’s supposed mea culpa in the next edition of The Spectator. Headlined “What I should say sorry for”, the piece was written from “a cold, damp three-star hotel in Liverpool” after the old Etonian was ordered to travel north to apologise by Michael Howard, who was then the leader of the Conservative Party (and a Liverpool fan, much to the embarrassment of many Kopites).

“Operation Scouse-grovel”, as the author describes it, is as obscene as the previous editorial. Johnson doubled down. He wrote: “Whatever its mistakes of facts and taste, for which I am sorry, last week’s leading article made a good point: about bogus sentiment, self-pity, risk, and our refusal to see that we may sometimes be the authors of our misfortunes.”

Almost every week Liverpool supporters hear the echo of the words of the man who holds the highest political office in the UK. “You killed your own fans.” “Always the victims.” “The Sun was right, you’re murderers.”


Is there a more “bogus sentiment” than becoming emotional about a national anthem? The royal family are the cornerstone of the class system. The idolisation of a dynastic institution that is completely distanced from ordinary people is bewildering for a large proportion of Liverpool supporters, especially those who have a close-up view of the growing poverty in the UK. The Fans Supporting Foodbanks initiative was founded outside Goodison Park and Anfield – it often gets overlooked that Evertonians are on the receiving end of anti-Scouse invective, too. Supporters of club after club come to Merseyside and rejoice in songs that mock poverty. Some Chelsea fans were chanting about hunger on Saturday. The Liverpool end booed institutional, inherited privilege. Guess which one the nation was outraged by? That was two days before the governor of the Bank of England warned of “apocalyptic” rises in food prices.

Hunger is at the centre of the historic perception of the people of Liverpool. The port, once known as “Torytown” and “the second city of the empire”, first fell out of step with the rest of England after the Potato Famine in the 1840s. Millions of starving Irish landed on the banks of the Mersey. Many stayed. The “othering” of Liverpool stretches back to the mid-19th century.

What does this have to do with football? A lot. The word “Scouse” is an insult that was reappropriated by those it was used against. In the poorest areas of Liverpool a century ago, the malnourished residents – who were the children of immigrants and who mainly identified as Irish – relied on soup kitchens and cheap street vendors for food. What they were served was Scouse, a watery stew. Scouser was a pejorative term used to mock the poorest. When “Feed the Scousers”, echoes around stadiums it is expressing a deep folk memory that is imbued with anti-migrant and anti-Irish sentiment. Those chanting it may not be conscious of the history, but the driving forces for their behaviour can be traced back down many decades. Nowhere else is poverty sneered at in this way by outsiders. No one sings “Feed the Geordies” or “Feed the Mancs” even though other places have much more deprived areas. No wonder citizens of Liverpool are triggered by the chants.


In these circumstances, it is hard to make a case for Scousers to do anything more than boo the national anthem. And then we get to Hillsborough. Britain should still be in a state of uproar about the 1989 disaster that led to the deaths of 97 people. Senior policemen and high-level politicians lied about what happened, covered up the mistakes of officials and threw the blame at innocent supporters. The national press, by and large, amplified the establishment narrative or failed to provide adequate scrutiny of the authorities. A substantial percentage of the British public still will not accept the findings of the longest, most exhaustive inquests in the country’s history. To cap it all, the policemen responsible for the mass death and the cover-up were acquitted of any wrongdoing – even after some of those individuals admitted their culpability in legal settings. Now the biggest miscarriage of justice in the nation’s history is being reduced to football banter. What a country. Play that anthem again so we can all join in.

The FA got off lightly, too. The ruling body held a semi-final at a ground that did not have a safety certificate. Tottenham Hotspur fans had a near miss eight years earlier on the same Leppings Lane terraces where the carnage occurred in 1989. For those whining that Abide With Me was disrupted, the FA did nothing to abide with the bereaved and survivors of an avoidable catastrophe at one of their showpiece games.


The events of the weekend illustrated just how toxic the attitudes towards Hillsborough have become. Family members of the dead were abused heavily on social media by trolls who used Saturday’s events as an excuse to harass those who have fought, in vain, for justice.

So what would it take to stop Liverpool supporters interrupting the national anthem? There’s a simple answer: don’t play it. We don’t want to hear it. Contempt oozes out of every word, every note.

And we don’t want to hear any complaints about Scousers not showing respect. The booing is a cry for justice, for equality, a howl against hunger and poverty. It is depressing that so many in Britain cannot hear that. Klopp heard it. Johnson never will.
 
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