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paulf-2007

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was conned into walking round Bluewater this morning saw the Samsung ( I think ) curved tv. Close up ( 2 feet ) it doesn't look as good as my panny plasma and at a sensible distance its so sharp its not natural. Real life just doesn't look like the pictures on these TV's, the future doesn't look bright, well not as bright as these TV's anyway. Another gripe is movement on led still looks blurry on the edges. Long live my panny is all I can say. I do have to put up with this on our lounge tv but then that's just for mundane viewing.

 

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was conned into walking round Bluewater this morning saw the Samsung ( I think ) curved tv. Close up ( 2 feet ) it doesn't look as good as my panny plasma and at a sensible distance its so sharp its not natural. Real life just doesn't look like the pictures on these TV's, the future doesn't look bright, well not as bright as these TV's anyway. Another gripe is movement on led still looks blurry on the edges. Long live my panny is all I can say. I do have to put up with this on our lounge tv but then that's just for mundane viewing.
Just been into John Lewis looking for a new TV and looked at the new 4K screens and have to agree that they look unnatural, either that or my eyesight is crap as they are just too detailed. They look as though everything has been enhanced to beyond normal.

 

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Don't take what you see in the shops as a reference. Tv's are always set up far too bright, colourful & contrast too near the max to attract the attention of the customers. Sort of who can shout the loudest. Set these up propely and I reckon the quality would be far better.

 

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Who wants to see individual hairs on a Zebra from 60 metres away.......that's not what anyone would normally see, unless you are an alien :shock:

 

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the quality is too good Rick is what we are saying I think. I guess joe public wants them to look better than real life, perhaps real life is drab. I don't think I could sit and watch that tv on a long term basis. A bit like avant garde, initial euphoria turns into fatigue.

Don't take what you see in the shops as a reference. Tv's are always set up far too bright, colourful & contrast too near the max to attract the attention of the customers. Sort of who can shout the loudest. Set these up propely and I reckon the quality would be far better.
 

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was conned into walking round Bluewater this morning saw the Samsung ( I think ) curved tv. Close up ( 2 feet ) it doesn't look as good as my panny plasma and at a sensible distance its so sharp its not natural. Real life just doesn't look like the pictures on these TV's, the future doesn't look bright, well not as bright as these TV's anyway. Another gripe is movement on led still looks blurry on the edges. Long live my panny is all I can say. I do have to put up with this on our lounge tv but then that's just for mundane viewing.
LED and OLED are not the same thing. The OLED shouldn't blur at the edges with movement. You must have seen the new 4K curved LED machine.

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-35303_1-57616606/samsungs-ces-2014-tvs-curved-and-4k-leds-but-no-new-oled-or-plasma/

 

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Was looking at the modern TV's over xmas in our local store and have to agree,everything looked cartoon like to me,pity as I quite fancy a smart tv,but think I will make do with our 11 year old panny plasma until it dies as it just looks more natural to me.

 
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Read a report yesterday that suggested these curved tv,s have a very small sweet spot , so unless you live on your own with a big old armchair positioned just right , seem a bit pointless

 

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Was looking at the modern TV's over xmas in our local store and have to agree,everything looked cartoon like to me,pity as I quite fancy a smart tv,but think I will make do with our 11 year old panny plasma until it dies as it just looks more natural to me.
Your right about in store demo TV's they are just badly set up.

Out of the box my smart tv was too bright and just unnatural looking but with half an hours tinkering it was far better.

 

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You can achieve a superior picture on almost any television set by intensive tweaking of the colour, contrast, sharpness and colour temperature settings. These sets will have been installed with everything on maximum or very near to, as Sir_Franc said, to attract attention from would be buyers. Also, LED refers only to the backlight technology within the set, as opposed to the older CCFL technology. All of these sets are LCD which inherently isn't as good with motion as plasma. OLED on the other hand is a completely new technology using an organic compound to emit light in response to an electric current. All of these technologies have their good and bad points, but for me, LCD is still the best compromise :) .

 

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I find it bizarre that there has been no research done on how the eye reacts to TV motion. They are making these high resolution TVs, but there needs to be some work done on what resolution, frame rate, blur etc work best. But no, let's just produce some stuff with big numbers...

 

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There has been some, although quite a lot of the findings might result in proprietary technology and may never be published in the public domain. There was a reasonably long thread on AVS forums with some references to academic papers, and the website Blur Busters (although mainly related to reducing blur for gaming) also has some references. I can share the links if you like.

Here is a link to a paper on modelling it in the Transactions of Image Processing http://videoprocessing.ucsd.edu/~stanleychan/publication/TIP2011_LCD.pdf . When I was doing my PhD, one of my fellow students in the department was looking at how the eye/brain relationship perceives moving objects on screen in a particular scenario, and how this might impact on technology - can't say much more than that due to the nature of the sponsorship for the research.

 

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Interestingly, in my brief reading, it seems that what we perceive to be motion blur is nowadays more down to "eye-tracking", how the eye and brain work together, than the speed at which pixels can switch or the persistence of pixels. I don't know enough about screen technology, but I wonder if that is the case, why many people still perceive the motion blur to be less on a plasma display than on an LCD display?

 

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Calibration settings for most models can be found on the web. Worth typing your tv model & "calibration settings", on Google. It improved my Panny plasma and Sony LCD tv's.

 

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:^ Will do, was waiting for my mate to come over and set my panny up with his proper kit but his wife just had a baby so he is a busy boy these days
Calibration settings for most models can be found on the web. Worth typing your tv model & "calibration settings", on Google. It improved my Panny plasma and Sony LCD tv's.
 

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I also saw on in JL recently. Like yourself, felt that the pictures on first looking at it looked terrible. Massively oversaturated and unnatural. I had the assistant tone down the settings using "cinema" mode. Have to say, that once he'd done that, looked stunnig to me. Really good black levels that made it feel far more 3 dimensional.

 

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Who wants to see individual hairs on a Zebra from 60 metres away.......that's not what anyone would normally see, unless you are an alien :shock:
:^ Now we're talking out of this world quality... ;-)

 

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Calibration settings for most models can be found on the web. Worth typing your tv model & "calibration settings", on Google. It improved my Panny plasma and Sony LCD tv's.
They will give you a very rough idea, but no two TVs of the same model output the same, the sources that feed them are different and more even more importantly, ambient light levels will vary hugely between different households.

If you want to get the best out of your TV investment, budget in £150-£200 for a trained ISF calibrator to come and do it for you.

 

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