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Don't underestimate good support

supercapman

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I have recently sold my Base rack as it was 2 tier and I need 3 and I was fed up with it's looks plus the fact of adding an additional shelf is a hell of a lot of money. well, the rack has gone and temporarily its on an Ikea table.

Sat down to have a good listening session tonight and things are not good, bass is boomy, I mean really boomy voices and busyier music are muddled and it just sounds crap:(. Fortunately I have ordered a new rack today from Apollo and cannot wait for things to get back to normal. If you think dedicated racks don't make much of a difference I beg to differ.

 

Davewhityetagain

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supercapman wrote:

I have recently sold my Base rack as it was 2 tier and I need 3 and I was fed up with it's looks plus the fact of adding an additional shelf is a hell of a lot of money. well, the rack has gone and temporarily its on an Ikea table.Sat down to have a good listening session tonight and things are not good, bass is boomy, I mean really boomy voices and busyier music are muddled and it just sounds crap:(. Fortunately I have ordered a new rack today from Apollo and cannot wait for things to get back to normal. If you think dedicated racks don't make much of a difference I beg to differ.
Big differance between you and many people who claim the need for good racks is you need one

you use valve amplifier

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Someone putting a solid state amplifier on a rack and saying its good for the transitors
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The Strat

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Definate improvement even with solid state.

A couple of years ago we moved our system from a hi-fi cupboard sideboard thing to a proper rack. All the problems Supercap identifies we had as well until we changed.

 

musicbox

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when I moved my entire system from floor standing quadraspire rack to a set of turntable shelves anchored into a solid wall.... the improvement to the sound was more than minor to say the least.

 

Sid and Coke

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Sastusbulbas wrote:

Oh and nothing wrong with Mana supports either, at least they are bought by people who listen to what they do , and not for looks
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You speak for youself,
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one of the main reasonsI bought my Mana amp rack (s/h) was becauseI liked its looks.

I think that a Hi-Fi rack is an essential peice of equipment, if not for what it does for a system sonically ( which could well be not a lot), but to keep all of the equipment well spaced, easier to change/replace pieces of equipment when they are on their own shelf, it will aid the flow of cooling air around the equipment and also add a degree of physical seperation in case a peice of equipment is sensitive to interference , or if a piece generates local interference ( e.g. I once had a Sony CDP that hummed like a bee when i placed it directly on top of a Pioneer A300R , when i put a few inches between them the interference stoppped. )

 

tones

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I agree with the title of this thread - but just remember that "good support" need NOT be any sort of specialised rack - in my (admittedly small) experience, any solid, stable surface will do exactly the same job. If you like the aesthetics or if it makes you feel good, by all means go for it, but in most cases I believe specialist hi-fi supports to be a complete waste of money and in some cases an outright con.

 

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