I have one of those. Max Townshend used to sell them; they were branded Elite EEI 555MCP, but I never got around to using it, What do you think of it?Yep, have one here for running my vintage EEI 555MCP (0.14mv) in the 2nd system.
It never seemed to sound right maybe consistent would be better way of explaining, is it wow or flutter when it sounded like it was slowing down , I tried the external power supply it improved a bit but still just not greatWhat did you hate about the Debut 3? I have one and .. well it does what it should, just like the Planar 3 I guess.
So I’m in that £500 price bracket myself I guess and what I’d have done differently next time is, I think I’d have bought a vintage player with auto play and auto return. I kind of dislike the minimalism of the modern players.
For balance I personally have owned a Rega P9 but Rega is not for me. However Lurch is a great guy and you should take up his incredibly generous offer as you may love the sound of it. Let us know how you get on. If you love it then it’s a painless purchase and ownership prospect.Wow. Thanks for all the replies.
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Interesting @bigrod that you think I'd need to spend more and around a grand. I think you have the Cambridge NQ (?) and so are presumably familiar with its little-bro 851N (which is great!).
Speakers are definitely not being changed. They are excellent and I don't see what I could buy that I'd like more (plus I would be unlikely to be able to afford them either).
Seems I have much to learn with vinyl. And also have to buy some.
I'll see if I can pick up a phono stage in the interim and I'm happy to start by seeing how I get on borrowing John's deck - who knows it might be a right pain, in which case at least I tried. Or alternatively it sounds like it could become a wallet-thinner quite quickly!
There also seems a large consensus that the Rega P3 is the dogs-danglies in its price bracket. So it will be great to borrow one.
The £600 budget was selected as I would like to try this without spending a fortune but doesn't have to be a ceiling if there's huge jumps for not much more - I genuinely thought I'd have wammers recommending me bonkers expensive decks after 5 mins! I know how you lot love to spend others people's dough .
Seriously though. Thank you. That is a lot of useful info and very quickly.
And to be offered to borrow a deck to try it out is just amazing.
Bought it last year for £70 complete with acrylic case, outer box & stylus guard, to go in my vintage 2nd system. Wasn't expecting much from it, but it's a delight on my 401/R200. Detailed, lovely mids with great timbre, took it to wizmax place a while back and stuck it on his SP10/Stax UA9 and it shocked the pair of us, being up there with Koetsu wood bodies, but then again it did retail at a similar price to the Koetsu Black back in the 80s.I have one of those. Max Townshend used to sell them; they were branded Elite EEI 555MCP, but I never got around to using it, What do you think of it?
I think the IKEA bamboo chopping boards are £15+ now, maybe even £20, but they would make the foundation for a very good plinth.
I agree with starting with some of the classic tables, Thorens, Systemdek, etc.
But, David, have you seen what Wammers are paying for digital equipment these days! Ive been to Snoopdog's bake off and seen and heard equipment worth thousands and a mate has just taken delivery of a streamer that costs an awful lot of money, ex-dem!I've only scanned through this thread so forgive me if I've missed something.
£600 is nowhere near enough to get started with vinyl. Let's say you buy 5 albums to get you going, bang goes £100, then if you continue buying used vinyl you need a vinyl cleaner £200-300, then there is the turntable itself. Ok I've seen decent tt's for sale on forums for £300, some even included arm, but you then have to buy a cartridge, lets say £100. Phonostage recommended on here £150. Then you have all the ancillaries, anti stastic brush, stylus brush, tracking force scales, extra interconnect, something to stand it on, ect.
How much time are you willing to devote to listening to vinyl, even @Lurch admits to only listening to his fantastic vinyl set-up for 10-20% of the time, the remainder digitally, simply because of the ease of use. I've recently sold my tt and vinyl, couldn't be happier and this was after 50yrs with it and all the memories it holds.
Someone had to balance the scales on whether it is worth going down the vinyl route.
As much as I love it (I listen to 80 - 90% vinyl), I would have to agree.if you haven’t already started, then it’s not worth it…
and with thisbut then you need to factor in the simple truth that we're totally barking.
As said by @antonio66, I feel like it's important to lay out all the expenditures, including the vinyl itself when you don't have any with which to begin. IF someone gave me a record collection, I'd spend €1500 on gear and a record cleaning machine. And even though I don't own any records, I'm still hunting for a great deal on a TT. I can't really say why either. It's as if the deal alone would justify the cost.The originally quoted £600 or so figure AFAIK does not include any LPs.
We do tend to get a bit unnecessary here about the level of spendiness you 'need'. To the vast majority of people, the sort of vinyl front end you could put together for £600 buying sensibly used (and a new cartridge) would be far better than good enough.
To some of us, that's about half what you'd pay just for a cartridge, but then you need to factor in the simple truth that we're totally barking.
I agree with you.The originally quoted £600 or so figure AFAIK does not include any LPs.
We do tend to get a bit unnecessary here about the level of spendiness you 'need'. To the vast majority of people, the sort of vinyl front end you could put together for £600 buying sensibly used (and a new cartridge) would be far better than good enough.
To some of us, that's about half what you'd pay just for a cartridge, but then you need to factor in the simple truth that we're totally barking.