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After a expensive week getting mrs car and camper sorted in the garage I`m skint but need some interconnects after doing a lot of reading I am going for these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Damme-Twin-Audio-Interconnect-Cable-Total-Definition-Directional-HIFI-1-150m/371683487712?epid=1739721347&hash=item568a0fefe0:m:mrF9Bn7rOgMWFzQX7Wl6CWw

From a building poing of view all I need to do is solder the centre the core to middle pin and the outer braid to the outer part of the plug ?
I know there is no fancy drain wire etc but I`m hoping these will do untill I can save some cash for better cable`s can anyone see any pitfulls in the way I am going to build them .

Many thanks
Gerry

 

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That appears to be a loudspeaker cable.  I would not use that for an interconnect.  It could be made to work but why bother. 

 

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After a expensive week getting mrs car and camper sorted in the garage I`m skint but need some interconnects after doing a lot of reading I am going for these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Damme-Twin-Audio-Interconnect-Cable-Total-Definition-Directional-HIFI-1-150m/371683487712?epid=1739721347&hash=item568a0fefe0:m:mrF9Bn7rOgMWFzQX7Wl6CWw

From a building poing of view all I need to do is solder the centre the core to middle pin and the outer braid to the outer part of the plug ?
Yes, it's simply screened cable, so it will work just as well as any other screened cable.

Gerry

That appears to be a loudspeaker cable.  I would not use that for an interconnect.  It could be made to work but why bother. 
You're wrong.

 

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From a building poing of view all I need to do is solder the centre the core to middle pin and the outer braid to the outer part of the plug ?
Yes.

Bear in mind that once you factor in the cost of connectors it can work out cheaper to buy a ready made cable. I have one of these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01KLUCZ8S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and some here use these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Mountain-Quality-Plated-Phono-Dark-Blue/dp/B0012LKFHE/ref=pd_vtph_23_lp_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=CA88YRAAKVCFG97W2BBY

 

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I built some cables a few years ago as I needed screened cables and the cost of replacing them all was scary. I had worked up the chain slightly using a well know USA brand, and I had noticed that each new more expensive model had more metal in it and was heavier. So rightly or wrongly I used that theory.

I bought the thickest, heaviest OFC co-axial cable I could find from Maplins.  Bit fiddly to make and to be honest a bit too stiff, but they sound little/no difference to the £300 USA brand name cable they replaced.  Still very happy.

From memory, the cable was about £2 a cable and the connectors about £10.  The real cost was the time, but quite rewarding.

 
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You're wrong.
Trunky, as a matter of politeness it would be better to say why, in your opinion, something is wrong.  Otherwise it comes across as offensive.  Do you get that?

If you look at the pictures on the website you will see there are two cables in shotgun arrangement.  That is typical for loudspeaker wire.  One could separate the two and use them as co-axial, but an interconnect is more often made from a signal wire, return wire and a separate shield.

 

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If you look at the pictures on the website you will see there are two cables in shotgun arrangement.  That is typical for loudspeaker wire.  One could separate the two and use them as co-axial, but an interconnect is more often made from a signal wire, return wire and a separate shield.
If you look at the third picture you'll see that it is a twin-coax cable.

 

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Trunky, as a matter of politeness it would be better to say why, in your opinion, something is wrong.  Otherwise it comes across as offensive.  Do you get that?

If you look at the pictures on the website you will see there are two cables in shotgun arrangement.  That is typical for loudspeaker wire.  One could separate the two and use them as co-axial, but an interconnect is more often made from a signal wire, return wire and a separate shield.
Actually. It would have been much better if you'd taken care to look at all the pictures, process the information and then type. (hint; I said they were screened cables) 

 
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Actually. It would have been much better if you'd taken care to look at all the pictures, process the information and then type. 
Trunky, your quote of me shows that I had looked at the pictures, noted the geometry.  On the other hand I will congratulate you on your ability to type faster than you can think.  Now what you may wish to do is try making up a sentence including these words:  'Black, kettle, pot, calling'. 

 

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Trunky, your quote of me shows that I had looked at the pictures, noted the geometry.  On the other hand I will congratulate you on your ability to type faster than you can think.  Now what you may wish to do is try making up a sentence including these words:  '*****, kettle, pot, calling'
Hi Andrei,

You gave some incorrect information in response to a question. The normal response would be 'Oh, did I? I'm sorry'. 

Going on a series of personal attacks is rather poor form old chap.

 
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Hi Andrei,

You gave some incorrect information in response to a question. The normal response would be 'Oh, did I? I'm sorry'. 

Going on a series of personal attacks is rather poor form old chap.
Trunky, you are doing the same thing that was offensive in the first place.  Back yourself up man!  State what the incorrect information was, give your opinion as to what the correct information is, add anything relevant.  Do it tomorrow when you are feeling better (not that I will read it though as you are now on my ignore list).

 

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Trunky, you are doing the same thing that was offensive in the first place.  Back yourself up man!  State what the incorrect information was, give your opinion as to what the correct information is, add anything relevant.  Do it tomorrow when you are feeling better (not that I will read it though as you are now on my ignore list).
Did you see my post? I trust you accept you made a mistake? If not look at ALL the pictures and read the description.

 
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Trunky, you are doing the same thing that was offensive in the first place.  Back yourself up man!  State what the incorrect information was, give your opinion as to what the correct information is, add anything relevant.  Do it tomorrow when you are feeling better (not that I will read it though as you are now on my ignore list).
Please stop digging, this is becoming offensive now.

 

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After a expensive week getting mrs car and camper sorted in the garage I`m skint but need some interconnects after doing a lot of reading I am going for these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Van-Damme-Twin-Audio-Interconnect-Cable-Total-Definition-Directional-HIFI-1-150m/371683487712?epid=1739721347&hash=item568a0fefe0:m:mrF9Bn7rOgMWFzQX7Wl6CWw

From a building poing of view all I need to do is solder the centre the core to middle pin and the outer braid to the outer part of the plug ?
I know there is no fancy drain wire etc but I`m hoping these will do untill I can save some cash for better cable`s can anyone see any pitfulls in the way I am going to build them .

Many thanks
Gerry
Well . . . . . .  there is no doubt that a serviceable interconnect can be made by buying some lengths of shield cable from someone such as van Damme.

However, in the interests of experimenting I have done this with just about all the likely candidates from van Damme and a few other cable manufacturers and they all sounded different and what is more important not as good as my Chord Sarum Super Aray cables. Also, they all had quite different measurement characteristics which sort of backs up why they sound different.

In the end, and after much experimenting and listening trials I have made my own interconnects completely from scratch and these in the end sounded better than the Chord Sarum. Anyone who came to my room (216) at Kegworth will have heard my 2.5m long XLR versions of these cables. I sold the Chord Sarum cables and bought an amplifier with the proceeds (which you will have also heard at Kegworth)..

But that, I have to admit, has been a faff and has taken many many hours.

But back to your question, those cables on ebay are shielded pairs so you could use the centre core wires for the + and - and then connect the shield (one end only, preferably source end) to the  -ve as a ground for the shield. You would of course in this configuration be using a pair of cables for each channel.

Or indeed, you could do what you mention which is to connect the centre core to the centre pin of the RCA plug and the shield to the RCA outer.

The soldering seems fiddly but be patient and work methodically and you will get there.

You will have cheap cables which will be entirely serviceable and indeed you may decide not to search for anything else if you are happy with the sound.

 
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What mistake?
Oh, really. Children, stop it or I will bang your heads together!

Oh, and since you ask, your mistake was, "That appears to be a loudspeaker cable.  I would not use that for an interconnect.  It could be made to work but why bother. " It is clearly a shielded interconnect and you had mistaken the bare shield shown in the first photo as a thicker loudspeaker cable.