Is ASR right

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It's hard to tell what's causing your perception without measurements but you could be right. Was this with the period instruments vs modern ones playing the same score?
It's consistent across most recordings, mainly when oboes double up the violin line on many larger scale pieces (eg. Messiah symphony/overture IIRC?) With period instruments it seems to change the character of the sound as if a new instrument has taken over, whereas with modern ones it just sounds like 2 different instruments paying the same notes.

You can kind of feel it with Bach's concerto for oboe and violin but they don't play the same notes (ie counterpoint) so not as obvious.
 

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It's consistent across most recordings, mainly when oboes double up the violin line on many larger scale pieces (eg. Messiah symphony/overture IIRC?) With period instruments it seems to change the character of the sound as if a new instrument has taken over, whereas with modern ones it just sounds like 2 different instruments paying the same notes.

You can kind of feel it with Bach's concerto for oboe and violin but they don't play the same notes (ie counterpoint) so not as obvious.
It prefer the Romantic period but will give it a go.

How instruments are mic'ed may also produce differences (multi-mic'ing, distance).

 
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It prefer the Romantic period but will give it a go.
How instruments are mic'ed may also produce differences (multi-mic'ing, distance).
So a good example is Pinnock's Messiah and ditto for the Bach (both beautiful recordings).
 
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It's hard to tell what's causing your perception without measurements but you could be right. Was this with the period instruments vs modern ones playing the same score?
There's a mention in here about the period instruments blending in better. Maybe as well as making them louder, developments in instrument design over the 19th/20th century made them more distinct sounding.

https://www.wise-geek.com/what-are-baroque-oboes.htm
 
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