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Thales tone arm

icehockeyboy

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Anyone seen this, and thought.......hang on...didnt Garrard do an arm like this about a hundred years ago? wasnt it called the zero 100 or summat?

 

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Hopefully they've put some bearings that work in the headshell, unlike Garrard............
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Should do - I've owned/repaired/restored/sworn ata Zero 100,3 Zero 100SB's and a GT55 (that replaced the Zero 100).................
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Actually not a bad deck, particularly the GT55 in which they did finally remember to put some headshell bearings.

 

Uncle Ants

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The Thales seems WAY more complex in its motion than the old Garrard, to the extent thatI'm stilltrying to get my head round exactlyhow it works (maybe seeing one in the flesh would help) It seems so complex its would be surprising of it worked at all, but of course could well be wrong.

some pics I found on the interweb:

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The Garrardversion of this ideais pretty sweetI thought... its just needed to be executed with some better string and sicky tape
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Ant

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Fixed antiskating though.

I'm not entirely sure that a simple swivel headshell wouldn't achieve the same thing.

 
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It certainly contradicts theories about the required rigidity in tonearms that the likes of SME feel are important. As the SME is the best pivoted arm I've listened to, it would be fascinating to hear how something as apparently flimsy and complex as this actually sounds in comparison. I'm not sure that the tracking error problems in a conventional pivoted arm are so serious that a solution like this is really necessary.

I haven't seen the review. What do they compare it with, what do they conclude and how much does it cost?

 

Sid and Coke

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I'm pretty sure i saw some other arm recently that had a swiveling headshell, i believe that the pivot point was behind the stylus tip so that the cart kind of'dragged' itself straight in relation to the groove by the friction of the diamond against the vinyl....

 

Ant

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Sid and Coke wrote:

I'm pretty sure i saw some other arm recently that had a swiveling headshell, i believe that the pivot point was behind the stylus tip so that the cart kind of'dragged' itself straight in relation to the groove by the friction of the diamond against the vinyl....
A japanese built arm called the RS1 maybe buy 47 Labs?
 

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