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Their purpose is fun. Same as music & audio. simples

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I have yet to see bakeoffs annotated/labeled by their hosts as to what is and is not the focus.

A few years ago I was looking to upgrade my pre-amp, my flat isn't that big (six people max) so I held three bakeoffs on consecutive weekends and asked people to bring pre-amps and phono stages.

It worked really well, I heard a lot of pre amps in my system, in my room, and it really helped my decision making.

If I held another bake off I would not make any plans and just let it turn out as it does.

The last time I had a room full of wammers (six of us) there was no kit brought at all, but there was a fair amount of food consumed, quite a few beers, but my system got a musical exercise playing stuff I would never normally listen to and we had a great time.

I do enjoy hearing new kit at bakeoffs but it has to be something interesting and new to me, I an not that bothered with hearing another DAC or fairly standard SS amp. The social side of the event is another matter entirely.

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Having read through this, and thinking about the bake offs I have hosted, we normally have a fixed system in one room, thats more about socialising. Music and food. The other room will have a varied system, with kit being swapped in and out. The social room is the buisiest. If I had to host a structured day, sat comparing various boxes I would not bother.

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Best ones often take on a life of their own.

Remember one, the weather was that good it should have been a BBQ bake off tbh.

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lots of cake. :)

This. Mostly this....

however on the op I think the idea of a shootout is an awful one. To actually do it properly you need to listen to the same music on a variety of kit. To me, this is utterly dull. I stress that's my opinion only.

when people not into this ask what a bake off is, I say we listen to music, talk shite and eat cake. What else do you need

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Super Wammer

For me, a bake off is more about the socialising and music, the equipment is the means of getting people together.

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Pillsbury be damned, not what they had in mind when they coined the term: bake-off :)

As for my original post, the idea of a shootout was merely an EXAMPLE of a possible execution upon a theme, not a hard and fast rule.

If indeed what you all mean by a bakeoff is indeed a "cakeoff" (tip of the hat to barney's dad) then have your cake ... :)

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I'm pretty disgusted at the OP having been to yesterday's bake off at Ian's.Yes, it's true quite a few of us knew each other but I thought everyone was made to feel very welcome, and Ian's hospitality was over and above. I'm grateful to go to bake offs partly for the socialising and partly to hear new music, new kit and to hear a system I already know well, perhaps with one or two changes made over the day for comparison purposes. I don't go particularly looking for answers as to which kit I should buy, I'm happy to do that on my ownsome.

I'm a classical music guy maybe 50% of the time with wide-ranging tastes otherwise. I hardly ever hear classical music at bake offs and very rarely ask to play mine as I know it's not much appreciated amongst my friends. But it doesn't stop me enjoying a huge variety of music I would otherwise miss (thanks Harv for last night!)

I was frankly astonished when I came out of one room yesterday to find you sitting on the stairs with your head in your hands, shaking it as if you were in pain. I asked what was the matter and it was obvious you intensely disliked the music, and hinted at something more. Thanks to your post above I now know. Yes, it was certainly pleasant to arrive to the sound of Beethoven coming out of the house, but I'm no more able to dictate tastes than you, nor would I want to.

I was also a little surprised to arrive and find another system already in place than the one we'd all been discussing prior to the bake off but actually that was just fine. Yes, too much kit but as Graham has said, it was an unusual occurance to be able to set up a second system at all. Sorry if it didn't all meet your expectations but we did as best we could and I think most of us had fun in the process. It's not like this is an organised hifi show, nor IMO should it be. If you are happy to entertain two to three at your place for 10 terabytes of cerebral rumination, it seems your expectations of Ian's bake with 10+ people and a bit of mild chaos were way too exacting.

If it offended your sensibilities that much, I can think of several other folk who could have taken your place and had they felt dissatisfied in any way would not have had the gall to display it. You said you were heading back to the States soon. I'm sure bake offs in New York are different. Ruder, maybe?

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1, Gear and equipment should not be thrown together. We don't do it with our systems, so why should we expect it to work on the day? With all the threads and posts about room acoustics and placement, how about practicing what we preach to others?

It wasn't intended to be, but then I wasn't expecting to drive 60 miles with the speakers that had been agreed on in the pre-bakeoff thread discussion to find a fully-established sytem with someone else's speakers already in place. As I said before though, I can adapt to that and did.

2, Care should be given as to theme. Shootouts between different makes/brands of gear i.e. DACs. Easy to swap them out keeping the hifi system as control environment.

Care was given, though not in the manner you were clearly hoping for. The intention was to establish a good system and then make few changes to let some music be heard. There was too much kit, but my contribution was offered and accepted right at the start of the discussion. I only arrived 30 mins after the host invited me yet others that arrived earlier couldn't wait to get started. I can hardly blame them, nor mind. But you can't be surprised I later on wanted to go through with setting up what had been agreed earlier, after considerable bother transporting it from Hastings to London.

3, Attendees would benefit from it making known in advance what they are looking to get out of the bakeoff. i.e. having a particular set of speakers and wanting to hear how they would sound with different amplification. Granted this would mean transporting one's speakers, but then nothing in life that comes too easy is ...

We did. I brought them, all four boxes and 100kg of them. My back is hurting today, but IMV it was all worth it. The Gems are fairly rare. My friends old and new may not get to hear them again as I may not have them much longer and I can't host bake offs, much to my annoyance.

As I mentioned earlier, I have nothing against HiFi socials, meeting fellow enthusiasts in person is great, but would not necessarily classify them as bakeoffs. I have walked away from the majority of bakeoffs liking my home system even more than before. And while that sounds like a positive, it is NOT. I would like bakeoffs to be provocative, to get me thinking differently about HiFi, challenging both my perception and conceptions.

I can imagine. There are indeed provocative bake offs available, but I suspect it won't be just your head you find yourself holding in your hands should you attend.

PS, while my flat is no position, size for the most part, to host bakeoffs I do maintain an open door policy, readily inviting WAMMERS, 2-3 at a time, to come on by and listen to my system and walk through the snakes and turns of computer audiophilia My source is a Mac Mini running Audirvana Plus 1.5 connected to 10 Terabytes of lossless music from rebook to DSD 128 and as I'm always learning, am sharing, so here's one for those Mac users who want to edit metadata for FLAC, WAV and DSD (dsf/dff) files. Metadatics: http://markvapps.com/metadatics, an advanced audio metatag editor. It covers all the bases and has become my go-to tool for such mind numbing work.

I would be very intere.....

I'm sorry, I've just bored myself.

I know that this post/thread is going to provoke a great deal of responses and given recent events on the WAM, and energy they've released, this just might provide a welcome outlet. :)

You live at 221b Baker Street and I claim my £5.

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Ouch!

Shame it's a bank holiday or I'd be seeing the chiropractor.

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Rules for a bakeoff?

1. Eat cake

2.Talk shit

3. Leave room when rmsshipbroker plays owt

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Rules for a bakeoff?

1. Eat cake

2.Talk shit

3. Leave room when rmsshipbroker plays out

Well when the fat lady sings..... :P

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I was frankly astonished when I came out of one room yesterday to find you sitting on the stairs with your head in your hands, shaking it as if you were in pain. I asked what was the matter and it was obvious you intensely disliked the music, and hinted at something more. Thanks to your post above I now know. Yes, it was certainly pleasant to arrive to the sound of Beethoven coming out of the house, but I'm no more able to dictate tastes than you, nor would I want to.

I now reiterate a point which I made in my post yesterday.

"Weird thing to do."

Dear God.

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