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Anyone any experience of these speakers?

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Heard some at Heathrow - terrible. Fell to bits as soon as the music got lively. Muddy and muddled with no integration between the active bass units on the back and the full-range drivers on the front - they seemed to be playing different tracks... :(

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i demmed them when I bought my 3A.

They're not quite as bad as listed above- they are very dark but dynamic & easy to drive. I did far prefer the Veena although having lived with that for a while it'sperhaps "too neutral" though never boring.

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I had the pleasure of listening to a pair at a friends home. I didn't think they were as bad as MIB said. They did integrate very well, very detailed and dynamic but not quite sure what to make of them.

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You can never really tell at a show - it might have been a room interaction or poor choice of electronics. It was one of the worst-sounding rooms, and I wasn't the only one to think so! ;)

That said, I didn't think much of Druids when I heard those. Great with Snorah, really nice on simple acoustic music, hopeless when things got louder and more complex.

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meninblack wrote:

You can never really tell at a show - it might have been a room interaction or poor choice of electronics. It was one of the worst-sounding rooms, and I wasn't the only one to think so! ;)

That said, I didn't think much of Druids when I heard those. Great with Snorah, really nice on simple acoustic music, hopeless when things got louder and more complex.

Yep - it was a very very bad sounding room. :?

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Papa Lazarou wrote:

meninblack wrote:
You can never really tell at a show - it might have been a room interaction or poor choice of electronics. It was one of the worst-sounding rooms, and I wasn't the only one to think so! ;)

That said, I didn't think much of Druids when I heard those. Great with Snorah, really nice on simple acoustic music, hopeless when things got louder and more complex.

Yep - it was a very very bad sounding room. :?

I can't say I recall hearing them at the show.

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Have a word with David at Radlett Audio. He does both Naim & Zu and will have a view on their compatibility.

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i think it's fair to sum them up thus.

Dynamic but with papery colourations.

I think that's very even handed.

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sq225917 wrote:

i think it's fair to sum them up thus.

Dynamic but with papery colourations.

I think that's very even handed.

Is that a recomendation or not? :D

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The Zu speakers do things that conventional speakers don't do. You either get it or you don't.

I think they're brilliant and put my money where my mouth is.

At Heathrow, the Definitions had no trouble playing 'Lines In The Sand' by Dream Theater. It's a tough track to get right and covers all bases from loud to soft, busy to almost solo. They held it together very well indeed, better than the Marten Miles 3 that everyone was raving about.

That said, I prefer the somewhat simpler Druids. They are dynamic, coherent, transparent, involvingand more 'real' sounding than any other speaker I have owned. They are also the least tiring speaker I have ever owned. What's more the performance doesn't vary when played very loud or very quietly. I now listen at lower levels than I used to because these speakers don't lose all their life and dynamics at lower levels like low efficiency speakers do.

PB, I don't know where you live, but you are welcome to come and listen to the Druids in a home environment here in Somerset. Bring your Naim gear with you.

I wouldn't like to guess about partnering with Naim. It could work. I know Naim can sound very good when correctly partnered. Just try it!

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JonR wrote:

technobear wrote:
PB, I don't know where you live, but you are welcome to come and listen to the Druids in a home environment here in Somerset. Bring your Naim gear with you.

:shock: PB - you'll need a lorry!

And thats just to carry the Fraim :shock:

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I'm going to go with technobear on this, I think you either get what the Zu's do or you don't. I too put my money where my mouth is and bought a pair of Zu's after a lengthy home demo.

I don't think the demo at Heathrow did them any favours at all but then no one would make a buying decision based on a show demo, right ? Having said that, speaking as an owner too, if that had been my only exposure to them I might not have struggled too hard to follow them up.

I have no idea how they might sound with Naim gear but I can say they seem to work equally well with solid state and valve amps. I use both myself. As in all these things it's very much try it and see.

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