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Many thanks to everyone who's offered help in my quest for a perfect backup. @JensA @TheFlash @jarvis @Solanum I'd like to say that I'm now delighted in having one 6TB external hard drive almost

Thanks @Solanum I really appreciate your kind help. Unfortunately I am not computer literate and to be honest wouldn't know where to begin with inputting code as you describe. For me shells are for ei

rsync Your NAS will be running linux (I use QNAP, but I am sure Synology is the same) and it is the simplest and best tool and does exactly what you want. Make sure ssh service is enabled in

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I have as my always on a QNAP TS-451+, and have my old Synology 215j turned off, in another room, that I manually backed up to late last year. Does anyone know if I can get them to play nice with each other with some kind of synch to bring my backup up to date?

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1 hour ago, Jail4CEOs2 said:

I have as my always on a QNAP TS-451+, and have my old Synology 215j turned off, in another room, that I manually backed up to late last year. Does anyone know if I can get them to play nice with each other with some kind of synch to bring my backup up to date?

Hmm, there is a Synology App called Hyper Backup Vault for exactly this purpose but afaik this requires 2 Synology NAS and will not work with a QNAP pus a Synology.

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23 minutes ago, JensA said:

Hmm, there is a Synology App called Hyper Backup Vault for exactly this purpose but afaik this requires 2 Synology NAS and will not work with a QNAP pus a Synology.

Yes, this is my dilemma mommy and daddy won't talk to each other. 

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But there seem to be couple therapists who specialise in such difficult relationships:

https://nascompares.com/2018/03/30/synchronize-between-synology-and-qnap-backup-restore-synchronize/

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I use two QNAP Nas for this purpose. A scheduled Rsynch Job (I think that is how it is called) will copy all new files from NAS A to NAS B and ensure, B has a full copy of A.  So it is not  a specific backup job, it is a synch job.
BTW, I don‘t use Raid, makes no sense for pure music files as recovery time is not an issue...

I‘m pretty sure this will work for mixed brands as well (not close to my NAS so can‘t check right away).

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3 minutes ago, JensA said:

But there seem to be couple therapists who specialise in such difficult relationships:

https://nascompares.com/2018/03/30/synchronize-between-synology-and-qnap-backup-restore-synchronize/

I've always checked out his videos every time I'm in the NAS market, nice find, thanks!

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2 minutes ago, Baba Yaga said:

I use two QNAP Nas for this purpose. A scheduled Rsynch Job (I think that is how it is called) will copy all new files from NAS A to NAS B and ensure, B has a full copy of A.  So it is not  a specific backup job, it is a synch job.
BTW, I don‘t use Raid, makes no sense for pure music files as recovery time is not an issue...

I‘m pretty sure this will work for mixed brands as well (not close to my NAS so can‘t check right away).

Yes, I didn't do raid either as the uber geeks declared it a mirage, plus I needed massive terabytage as I have tons of video too. The above mentioned article looks like it will work well. 

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4 hours ago, JensA said:

@SnapperMike Yes, I am a Mac user. My recommendation (at least this is wa smy solution to the problem):

Buy the exFat extension for Synology (3.99 USD, I know too cheap for a serious LinNerd) and use exFat.

https://www.synology.com/en-global/dsm/packages/exFAT

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Thanks Jens, much appreciated! I'll look into that solution. 

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4 hours ago, JensA said:

Buy the exFat extension for Synology (3.99 USD, I know too cheap for a serious LinNerd) and use exFat.

Hi Jens, be gentle: exactly how does one buy this and end up with a bit of extra software on the Synology...?

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This is how I do it.

I have my digital music collection on my PC, this is my home office machine with a separate 1tb drive for my music. This is where I do all the ripping, tagging and sorting the artwork etc. I listen to this during my workday.

I use Allway Sync to copy these files to a 2 disk QNAP (raid 1) which is also in my office, this is what I use to stream to my Linn in the front room.

A 3rd copy is stored on a 1 disk QNAP in the garden room (connected to the network). Both QNAPs are running Asset so if one of them goes down all I have to do is swap sources in Kazoo and I'm away again.

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1 hour ago, TheFlash said:

Hi Jens, be gentle: exactly how does one buy this and end up with a bit of extra software on the Synology...?

:minikev:

You laugh, Jens! But I'm serious... do I log onto my Synology account and go the Synology shop? I'm ok buying software on the computer I'm going to use it on... but this is a step beyond.

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Macs should be able to read and write HFS and HFS+ as it was developed by Apple. (not used for Macs internal disks for a while, but should be able to read them)

HFS+ is more modern.

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1 hour ago, TheFlash said:

You laugh, Jens! But I'm serious... do I log onto my Synology account and go the Synology shop? I'm ok buying software on the computer I'm going to use it on... but this is a step beyond.

@TheFlash Sorry Nigel, I thought your post was a reference to my remark about LinNerds :P

It's actually not too difficult, Synology have a kind of Appstore called "Package Center" which you can access via your diskstation's web interface, then just go to "all packages" and look for the exFat extension. IIRC you must have a Synology account in order to buy packages.

Here is a screenshot

 

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22 minutes ago, aoijin said:

Macs should be able to read and write HFS and HFS+ as it was developed by Apple. (not used for Macs internal disks for a while, but should be able to read them)

HFS+ is more modern.

True but exFat has the advantage that you can easily switch your drives between Windows and Mac.
 

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