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30 minutes ago, Moomintroll said:

@sunbeamgls wrote in his blog: “its not crazy expensive when compared to luxury products, per se”

Which brings to mind an article on BBC yesterday, reporting on the rumour of Jeff Bezos having a superyacht built for a reputed £350m - and that doesn’t include the “support” yacht housing the helipad and other toys!

No, it’s not “crazy” expensive, just expensive.

’troll

It always depends which way you look. To a refugee in Yemen it might look different.

Regards Andrew 

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On 11/05/2021 at 09:41, vicjayl said:

Day 11 – Tuesday morning, and no, I hadn’t dreamt it: there they are, a Klimax System Hub next to all black (mat) Akubariks, in front of which last evening a life-long pursuit of musical nirvana achieved something of a sense of arrival. (Over the top? Hang in there.)

 

Eleven days ago I was told that my order for integrated Akubariks to replace my 242s and stack of black boxes would take around four weeks. Then last Friday, James at Hidden Systems told me that much to his surprise, my ordered speakers had arrived and could they be delivered and installed next Monday? Reader, I’ll leave you to imagine my reaction.

 

As always, the installation and set-up had that sense of conjured alchemy, as the most esoteric of music (to my ears) guided the system set-up to its peak as Neil manipulated that incredible software that is Sound Optimisation. I have to say that as service goes, from build and supply at Linn, through delivery and set up by Hidden Systems, service doesn’t get much better that this. Thanks a million to everyone in that chain.

 

In passing, I can’t see a name on the Akubariks, but I remember on my visit to Glasgow, seeing thank-you cards pinned up at individual work stations. There are a few hands at that place I’d like to shake, that’s for sure.

 

Exciting as set-up is, it’s the period after clearing away packaging and coffee cups, and the hardly adequate expressions of parting thanks, that the day is really about. My test tracks now have their say. Brief blasts from the Berlin Philharmonic (Karajan); some small and some large scale choral music; Glen Gould and his humming accompaniment; Joan Armatrading, Ry Cooder and Fleetwood Mac, for samples.

 

But then, as for the Klimax experience mentioned above, I turned to the Saint-Saens Organ Symphony, Louis Fremaux and the CBSO. I never find it easy to turn music into words: soundstage, imagery, “space around the instruments” and such, and the degrees to which they are achieved don’t quite get to the heart of the matter somehow. And anyway at this level ought to be taken for granted perhaps.

 

To my ears, what this system does for a piece of music so familiar to me was summed up by my wife’s comment: it has a sense of easy, natural cohesion. (And she rarely comments while knitting away at my next sleeveless pullover.) What it does is create that sense of cohesion, of harmony and natural balance of musical forces and their interactions which just feel so right. It shifts attention from what the system is doing to the music, to what the music is doing to you. It is, to a most marked degree, the closest that I have experienced to being in my favourite seat at Symphony Hall Birmingham, that world class musical venue with its amazing acoustic (and aesthetic) properties. And when it comes down to it, isn’t that what our audio reproduction is really all about?

 

As the light faded in our living room, a light blue haze appeared on the wall about the Akubariks. It looked for all the world like a halo. And (despite this writer’s rationalism) it felt so appropriate to an amazing musical experience from this remarkable kit.

Further to the above, my new Klimax/Akubariks system shifted up a gear last night with a playing of Mahler’s “Resurrection” symphony (Vladimir Jurowski with the London Philharmonic Orchestra on Decca.)

 

I thought it worth sharing because this music would put any system to the test. While the music won’t appeal to all tastes, its variety, its use of the interplay between different sections of the huge orchestra, competing, contrasting and complimenting in turns, reveals how well, with this level of complexity, a system can recreate the realism of a good seat in an ideal concert hall. This listener’s benchmark, anyway.

 

Using music you know well (and love) as a test piece provokes the challenge of avoiding getting swept along with the music rather than keeping focus on how well the system is performing its challenge to reproduce convincingly when dealing with such acoustic extremes. In this instance, it blew my socks off.

 

This is mighty music, with crashing extremes and the subtlest of subdued harmonies. As a primer for identifying and valuing the various contributions of sections of the orchestra by turns it could hardly be bettered. With a sound-stage which is a real credit to the recording engineers, the second violins and the wind section are clearly individualised. And when you can place the oboes in relations to the bassoons, you’re in a very rare league indeed, in my opinion.

 

It’s taken most of my adult lifetime, and it’s been a fascinating journey though some very careful upgrading paths, but with the closing bars of this music I have a sense of arrival. Cheers Linn, and Hidden Systems.

 

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Interesting wording in the update to Linndocs:

"Replaced by" isn't the same as "running alongside".

Product info

  • Product Name: Klimax System Hub (2018 Variant)
  • Date of Introduction: Sept 2018
Replaced by Klimax DSM (Hub) in Mar 2021
 
 
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Well spotted @sunbeamgls. I find the naming of these products to be a bit of a pain - we’re going to have to be so precise in what we call things in the future.

The “Klimax System Hub” is still shown in the March 2021 Price List at £9200 and also as part of a complete Klimax System. Which suggest that it will run in parallel for a while at least - I think, like everything in a specialist market, Linn will see how many they sell going forward - the new model will dump quite a few on to the second hand market this year.

One thing I note, is that your reference calls it the “2018” model, whereas the Price List calls it the “2016”. How unlike Linn to get the documentation wrong…

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3 hours ago, Moomintroll said:

Well spotted @sunbeamgls. I find the naming of these products to be a bit of a pain - we’re going to have to be so precise in what we call things in the future.

The “Klimax System Hub” is still shown in the March 2021 Price List at £9200 and also as part of a complete Klimax System. Which suggest that it will run in parallel for a while at least - I think, like everything in a specialist market, Linn will see how many they sell going forward - the new model will dump quite a few on to the second hand market this year.

One thing I note, is that your reference calls it the “2018” model, whereas the Price List calls it the “2016”. How unlike Linn to get the documentation wrong…

’troll

I brought home the new 2021 Klimax DSM A/V recently, and on the outside of the box, Linn called it something else again.

Sorry, I can’t remember what that was, but maybe I will take a picture of it tomorrow 

There was also a specific designation for the Klimax DSM A/V in Konfig that I will have to take note of

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50 minutes ago, Paulssurround said:

I brought home the new 2021 Klimax DSM A/V recently, and on the outside of the box, Linn called it something else again.

Sorry, I can’t remember what that was, but maybe I will take a picture of it tomorrow 

There was also a specific designation for the Klimax DSM A/V in Konfig that I will have to take note of

On the box: KLI DSM/A/3

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New Klimax System Hub was ordered today! Silver!

I figured with the longish lead times, I'd better get mine into the queue sooner rather than later. Also, the dealer extended a generous offer on my Akurate Exakt DSM, and accepted a minimal down payment. Just wanted to secure the deal before anyone changed their minds.

To summarize; Woohoo!!! :D

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On 07/06/2021 at 15:30, akamatsu said:

New Klimax System Hub was ordered today! Silver!

I figured with the longish lead times, I'd better get mine into the queue sooner rather than later. Also, the dealer extended a generous offer on my Akurate Exakt DSM, and accepted a minimal down payment. Just wanted to secure the deal before anyone changed their minds.

To summarize; Woohoo!!! :D

Akamatsu - I've had my new system hub for just over a week.  You're going to be very happy with the result.  Almost time to start performing comparisons on ethernet connectivity.  How did you find the improvement from A-Rad to K-Rad?

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7 hours ago, ToddH said:

Akamatsu - I've had my new system hub for just over a week.  You're going to be very happy with the result.  Almost time to start performing comparisons on ethernet connectivity.  How did you find the improvement from A-Rad to K-Rad?

Thank you for your words of encouragement. I am looking forward to an improvement with the KSH. But I really have no idea how big an improvement it will be, as I haven't auditioned. Most of my listening is done on LP, so this is where the big question lies. How much of an improvement will there be listening to vinyl? if it is as big as the improvement heard with the Klimax cased Radikal, then I will be thrilled! But I'm not expecting that. But I do anticipate a huge improvement in DS. Then I'll listen to digital media more.

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1 hour ago, akamatsu said:

Thank you for your words of encouragement. I am looking forward to an improvement with the KSM. But I really have no idea how big an improvement it will be, as I haven't auditioned.

My review can advise on that point akamatsu :)

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8 minutes ago, sunbeamgls said:

My review can advise on that point akamatsu :)

I just revisited your review and realised that I had already read it. I do visit your website occasionally. I did find your descriptions of the sound quality insightful, and therefore, helpful. Comments such as hearing "how the string was plucked" do communicate well with me. Thank you.

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@ToddH,

I just looked at your profile and got a little excited! So you have a Urika II equipped LP12! I looked around for a comment by you on the sound quality of the KSH while listening to vinyl. I couldn't find anything.

Please tell us your impressions, or direct us to previous replies.

Thank you. :)

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Good news on the KSH front. Canada will allow us Americans in come Aug 8 at 21:01 (00:01 EDT on August 9). This means that once my KSH arrives, I just have to pack up the car and go. :oj:

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@akamatsu,

The review provided by @sunbeamgls is excellent.  I have not re-read it for some time, so my feedback is less biased from the advantage of his detailed review.  My general impression is that the same improvements are available for all sources.  Possibly with the Urika II the gap is just a little bit narrower due to the Exakt to Exakt commonality.  The Urika II gets the benefit of the improved master clock in the Hub as I understand it, plus all the improvements to handling of the signal in the hub.  Absolutely an improvement., your system will shine as never before.  To be honest I mostly stream these days and use my LP12, let's say, on special occasions (been with me since 1985).    I hope that helps.

Streaming is a wonderful way to search and discover music, and assist with targeting vinyl selections.

How did you find the improvement from A-Rad to K-Rad?  

More later this week.

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@ToddH,

Thank you for the reply. It is beyond helpful and just heightens my excitement! I'm having a delicious dinner now and will reply about my Radikal adventure tomorrow morning from the west coast of N. Americal.

Cheers,

Michael

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