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The Preowned Market For The Klimax Katalyst DSM


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4 hours ago, akamatsu said:

Perhaps the dealer was at the meeting and knows something.

Almost certainly not. He was at pains to point out 'I know nothing'... Unless that was a double bluff.

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3 minutes ago, entdgc said:

Almost certainly not. He was at pains to point out 'I know nothing'... Unless that was a double bluff.

In that case, dare we default to the impression left by another dealer ,who was at the meeting, that Akurate is here to stay?

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On 05/05/2021 at 20:25, Paulssurround said:

Yes, I agree.

‘There is nothing wrong with Akurate, and my Akurate system is superb sound quality. 

Another consideration is Akurate casework matches most Linn owners current lineup of kit

Yes, absolutely it is too big a step, and Linn may lose a lot of customers.

‘I think the most telling sign is that their are no Selekt Exaktboxes, or Selekt speakers in Linn’s lineup

All Linn's existing speakers work with Selekt.

But then there's not much point in trying to work out Linn's branding / product placement sometimes. What exactly are they going to call a Klimax DSM/2 with an upgrade to an Organik DAC?  It can't be an Klimax DSM/3 as that's the totally new box.

Ho-hum.

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Also, surely I can't be the only one who has noticed that it's almost as if they realized that while Klimax worked, Orgasmik was just a bit too over the top.

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On 05/05/2021 at 18:41, Moomintroll said:

That ties in with my thinking about the limited space inside the current Klimax box  - “There are plans to make Organik DAC available as an upgrade…” (my bold) This could be taken as Katalyst will be upgraded to Organik, but you may not get all the other NextGen improvements. Just a thought.

’troll

It seems you are right on that one. I thought I just as well might ask the Linn helpline. Here is the email dialogue, minus the polite bits:

Q: "will there be the possibility to upgrade the current version of the Klimax Exakt DSM aka Klimax System Hub to the new Klimax System Hub (Organik), i.e. a new circuit board for new Organik in the old Klimax Housing?"

A: "The Klimax System Hub does not have a DAC within and as such there would not be an option to offer an Organik DAC fitted into a Klimax System Hub version. We plan to offer at some point in the next couple of years a retrofittable Organik to the previous generation of Klimax DS and Klimax DSM, as these models do already incorporate a DAC."

Q: "From what I understand there is more to the new streamers than the new Organik DAC, e.g. new ADC and new precise clock which also add to the performance of the System Hub. This means that these will not be retrofitted into existing Klimax cases, right?"

A: "The engineer advises that at the moment, there are no plans to offer such a retrofittable upgrade option to the original Klimax DSM System Hub, however, he has noted your request."

Quite a detailed answer, much appreciated. So, no plans regarding upgrading the KSH, but not completely ruled out for the future. I can understand that they want to see how well the new Organik stuff does on the market, which seems luckily very positive, and with the Covid and Brexit pandemics still on their plate, this will not have the highest priority. Maybe we are lucky and in some point in the future they incorporate this. It would make sense that they try to include clock and ADS updates in KDS(M) streamers as well, and an update for the KSH would be a side product. On the other hand, they probably do not want the updated streamers to perform too close to the new ones, given the price difference...

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Thanks for that @berni I didn’t have have any prior knowledge - I was just thinking through the problem. I’m glad that my new Hub is on order.:$

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1 hour ago, berni said:

On the other hand, they probably do not want the updated streamers to perform too close to the new ones, given the price difference...

It’ll be interesting to hear a comparison between Katalyst KDS/M, an upgraded-to-Organik KDS/M, and the new version, when the time comes. 
 

Mick

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