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I haven’t seen any reference to Linn providing an HDMI 2.1. board or an Atmos capable surround board. This year’s TVs/app versions use both, so any AV version of the hub or full fat DSM will require both before I jump. Otherwise I’d wait for the speaker upgrade to be ready then demo the lot and see how the whole package come together.

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22 hours ago, Flatcoat said:

The new hub with my 530s is the biggest upgrade I have ever experienced in over 40 yrs of Linn ownership.  I plan to replace the 530s with Akubarik exakt katalyst and keep fingers crossed that Organik will be an option in the future.  

Word from multiple dealers is about 24 months until Organik is made available for the Akubariks. I also made the step up from 530s to Akubariks, expensive but well worth it.

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On 14/06/2021 at 09:00, Paulssurround said:

‘IMHO, we believe the Klimax Hub brings a subjective 75% improvement to sound quality, and the Organik DAC’s bring an additional 25% 

Both upgrades are going to be substantial, but I think the Klimax Hub/DSM gives the biggest improvement.

If I do a future upgrade, it will almost certainly be to focus on purchasing the new Klimax Hub for my system first, and then I will revisit the Organik DAC boards as the next future upgrade. 😊🎶🎵

Are you convinced of this Paul, or is there a risk you "want" the major improvement to be with the Klimax hub as this is the more affordable or favorable upgrade path for your system, maybe that last 2%? 🤗

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I was hoping the 75 / 25 would be the other way around as this completely favors my upgrade path, waiting for Organik for my Dorks.

I also heard from my Linn dealer in Ontario, that he felt the Organik upgrade on his 350s was more significant than the Katalyst upgrade. As point of note he had Katalyst Akudoriks, prior.

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6 hours ago, Craigas said:

Are you convinced of this Paul, or is there a risk you "want" the major improvement to be with the Klimax hub as this is the more affordable or favorable upgrade path for your system, maybe that last 2%? 🤗

Well, the best suggestion I have is that you and I book an appointment at the Linn dealer and you take a listen to the Klimax DSM A/V with the Organik DAC 350’s

‘I can probably arrange that we take the Klimax DSM to your home for the weekend to run in your system. 

I do believe you will be astonished.  😀

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I have just auditioned the new Klimax hub with a pair of Katalyst “Aktiv” Akubariks: I am familiar with their sound signature through Paul’s, and they still have some 242 in them.

I will be moving out and living in a large cardboard box that once housed my neighbors’ refrigerator so that I can afford to purchase a hub in two years or so😂😂

Everything reported about it is understated.

Many thanks to Chris at Elite Audio’s Kleinburg location for the safe, comfortable and welcoming experience.

This Klimax is definitely on my radar and in my long term (1-2 year) upgrade plan😳😵💫😆👍🥳🥳

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You're not helping me keep my excitable level of anticipation under control Eldarboy!  I'm only in week 5 of the quoted 10 to 12 weeks wait for the delivery of mine!  Talk about Uncle Karl's commodity fetishism!

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On 14/06/2021 at 18:00, Paulssurround said:

Linn has presented a compelling choice, with the release of the new Klimax Hub/DSM’s, and the potential future upgrade Organik DAC boards for Akurate speakers and Exaktboxes.

‘What will bring the greatest improvement in sound quality, and how to prioritize the next potential future upgrades?

I have heard the new Klimax DSM/A/V as the source for a pair of Katalyst 350’s, and then heard the Organik DAC’s installed in the same pair of 350’s. I have also brought the Klimax DSM A/V home and installed it in my system, as well as a friend’s PMC Fact8 Signatures driven by a pair of Solos. In all cases, the music was stunning.

 I now have an opinion as to what I believe will bring the most improvements to my Linn system.

‘I had a discussion with another Forum member the other day who has purchased  the new Klimax Hub, as well as installed the new Organik DAC boards into his 350’s, and we are in agreement as to what brings the most to the party.

‘IMHO, we believe the Klimax Hub brings a subjective 75% improvement to sound quality, and the Organik DAC’s bring an additional 25% 

Both upgrades are going to be substantial, but I think the Klimax Hub/DSM gives the biggest improvement.

If I do a future upgrade, it will almost certainly be to focus on purchasing the new Klimax Hub for my system first, and then I will revisit the Organik DAC boards as the next future upgrade. 😊🎶🎵

Thx for sharing this, Paul  I followed this way of thinking for some time, and talked to my dealer that we need to investigate into the new hubs effect on the overall result. He promised to give me a call, when he's able to do this kind of demo. Maybe he forgot, or things are stuck in customs. Anyway, I'm pretty much occupied by other things these days. Looks like we need to make adjustments to the game plan at halftime 😉

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Now in week 7 of the quoted 10 - 12 week wait, and almost salivating.  Mind you, the Klimax Hub (2018) is delivering some amazing sounds in its stand-in role. I'm taking on trust the reports of how much better the NGKDSM is of course, not being able to demo it.   But then, over the years, Linn's claims, supported by Forum members' reports have always delivered for me.  Exciting!

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23 hours ago, vicjayl said:

Now in week 7 of the quoted 10 - 12 week wait, and almost salivating.  Mind you, the Klimax Hub (2018) is delivering some amazing sounds in its stand-in role. I'm taking on trust the reports of how much better the NGKDSM is of course, not being able to demo it.   But then, over the years, Linn's claims, supported by Forum members' reports have always delivered for me.  Exciting!

We are in almost exactly the same position as yourself except our present Klimax Hub is the very latest (last) model just provided from Linn in May.  Our NGKDSM is also due in August. So we are all waiting in great anticipation.

By the way we wonder if we (identical twins) at now 84 years old are the oldest Linn fans awaiting this new experience in sound?

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On 13/07/2021 at 09:57, The Twins said:

By the way we wonder if we (identical twins) at now 84 years old are the oldest Linn fans awaiting this new experience in sound?

You've got me beat by 22 years!

Waiting for the Klimax Hub. It's been six weeks since ordering.

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On 14/06/2021 at 09:00, Paulssurround said:

Linn has presented a compelling choice, with the release of the new Klimax Hub/DSM’s, and the potential future upgrade Organik DAC boards for Akurate speakers and Exaktboxes.

‘What will bring the greatest improvement in sound quality, and how to prioritize the next potential future upgrades?

I have heard the new Klimax DSM/A/V as the source for a pair of Katalyst 350’s, and then heard the Organik DAC’s installed in the same pair of 350’s. I have also brought the Klimax DSM A/V home and installed it in my system, as well as a friend’s PMC Fact8 Signatures driven by a pair of Solos. In all cases, the music was stunning.

 I now have an opinion as to what I believe will bring the most improvements to my Linn system.

‘I had a discussion with another Forum member the other day who has purchased  the new Klimax Hub, as well as installed the new Organik DAC boards into his 350’s, and we are in agreement as to what brings the most to the party.

‘IMHO, we believe the Klimax Hub brings a subjective 75% improvement to sound quality, and the Organik DAC’s bring an additional 25% 

Both upgrades are going to be substantial, but I think the Klimax Hub/DSM gives the biggest improvement.

If I do a future upgrade, it will almost certainly be to focus on purchasing the new Klimax Hub for my system first, and then I will revisit the Organik DAC boards as the next future upgrade. 😊🎶🎵

I just found this thread I posted back in June and reread it.

‘I did buy a new 2018 variant Klimax Hub after all, and I think it was an excellent choice

Let’s see what happens next ….

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Just to add to the mix, following an interesting dem (and chat) of ADSM vs KDSM into active Akubariks with Colin Macey at What you See and Hear, I have just gone for a new Klimax Hub, trading in my ADSM.  No surprise the Klimax sounds miles better of course. Probably the smart value choice would have been a late version ‘old’ Klimax like Paul went for, but I decided to go with the new style and get it done with.

FWIW Colin also thought Organik for Akubariks would be unlikely before 2023, and not guaranteed even then.  This is fortunate because it will take at least until then for my bank balance to recover from the shock.
 

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