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I recently posted on here about how I could set up a local music streamer to play my massive digital library, and folks recommended the Node 2i, which I bought and LOVE (many features I dont use since all my music needs are local, also they brought out the new one about a month after I bought the 2i, but what the hey).

Since then I've been investigating the brand, and I've heard their soundbar - which to my ears, was awesome - and the little Pulse Flex 2i speakers, which pack a punch for their size, though I guess are pretty expensive.

Generally speaking though, these guys seem to be doing some really good stuff, and I wonder, why is it that nobody has it?  I've yet to meet someone else who owns a Bluesound product, and most people haven't heard of them, is it just because they're a relatively new brand name?  My parents for example went to a retailer recently for a good soundbar, and were sold the Sonos Arc, but I've heard this and the BS one, and the BS one sounds better, for the same price.  So what gives?

Not really a question that's going anywhere in particular, just curious...

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I think some of the lack of impact for this company is that they seem to make mostly niche products like streamers , sound bars and active speakers. They do not as far as i know have a range of amplifiers or passive speakers and these are the main stream products that most people will notice . I also think at this time they have very few dealers in the UK so not a wide market to offer their products as an alternative.

They have certainly had huge coverage on this forum with quite a few using Nodes both in standard and pimped format .

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Thanks Bencat - it's true to say that they don't do standard amps or speakers, but the same could be said of Sonos, who are everywhere.  And dealer-wise, you can buy BS in Richer Sounds, who are massive, surely?

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Sonos is more of a lifestyle product, adopted by the non audiophile fraternity (most people) BS is aimed more at audiophiles, and therefore a niche product. IMO of course :) 

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7 hours ago, Muttoninyourears said:

Thanks Bencat - it's true to say that they don't do standard amps or speakers, but the same could be said of Sonos, who are everywhere.  And dealer-wise, you can buy BS in Richer Sounds, who are massive, surely?

Bit where do the majority of people buy electrical goods? Places like Currys and John Lewis, who stock Sonos and not Bluesound.

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All valid points.  I suppose most people are happy with a little speaker that you can hear the music on and it sounds OK.  Still pretty darned good compared to what kind of Hi-Fi you could get for a couple of days' salary back in 1952, I suppose!

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On 17/06/2021 at 12:25, Muttoninyourears said:

I recently posted on here about how I could set up a local music streamer to play my massive digital library, and folks recommended the Node 2i, which I bought and LOVE (many features I dont use since all my music needs are local, also they brought out the new one about a month after I bought the 2i, but what the hey).

Since then I've been investigating the brand, and I've heard their soundbar - which to my ears, was awesome - and the little Pulse Flex 2i speakers, which pack a punch for their size, though I guess are pretty expensive.

Generally speaking though, these guys seem to be doing some really good stuff, and I wonder, why is it that nobody has it?  I've yet to meet someone else who owns a Bluesound product, and most people haven't heard of them, is it just because they're a relatively new brand name?  My parents for example went to a retailer recently for a good soundbar, and were sold the Sonos Arc, but I've heard this and the BS one, and the BS one sounds better, for the same price.  So what gives?

Not really a question that's going anywhere in particular, just curious...

Can I ask how you store your 'massive digital library'? Also, is it attached to Node 2i via external hard drive?

Am I correct in believing the Node 2i has a limit to tracks it can index (200k). is your 'massive digital library' near or over this limit?

cheers

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On 23/06/2021 at 09:48, hermano said:

Can I ask how you store your 'massive digital library'? Also, is it attached to Node 2i via external hard drive?

Am I correct in believing the Node 2i has a limit to tracks it can index (200k). is your 'massive digital library' near or over this limit?

cheers

Ha ha, massive to me isn't quite that big, I think I'm at around 35,000 tracks, mainly in FLAC quality or better.  200K tracks would surely only be for an obsessive collector who wanted to own 'all' the music - live versions, demos etc.  Of my 35K tracks there's a lot of lesser-known specialist stuff, and certainly, I would think, practically everything you'd find on 'Best of' lists, IE best 100 Hiphop albums etc.  It will keep going up slowly but I doubt I'd ever tip 100K...size of collection is all relative though I guess!

I store this on a Synology 2x2TB NAS drive (Seagate Iron Wolf drives) that I also use to back up all my phones, computers etc. The Node's pointed to one folder on there 'music'. It's accessed over wifi (cant get ethernet from the node easily) which is is apparently a touch slower than wired, but only takes a couple of seconds to load up an album.  It's a good system.

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1 minute ago, Muttoninyourears said:

Ha ha, massive to me isn't quite that big, I think I'm at around 35,000 tracks, mainly in FLAC quality or better.  200K tracks would surely only be for an obsessive collector who wanted to own 'all' the music - live versions, demos etc.  Of my 35K tracks there's a lot of lesser-known specialist stuff, and certainly, I would think, practically everything you'd find on 'Best of' lists, IE best 100 Hiphop albums etc.  It will keep going up slowly but I doubt I'd ever tip 100K...size of collection is all relative though I guess!

I store this on a Synology 2x2TB NAS drive (Seagate Iron Wolf drives) that I also use to back up all my phones, computers etc. The Node's pointed to one folder on there 'music'. It's accessed over wifi (cant get ethernet from the node easily) which is is apparently a touch slower than wired, but only takes a couple of seconds to load up an album.  It's a good system.

Cheers for that as just wondered. I am sitting at 130k tracks and thought about Bluesound but read it starts to get a bit flaky after 100k tracks, and will not support much more (200k is max in optimal condition probably low bitrate mp3, short tracks etc). So not ideal for me unfortunately. I now also avoid Nas as try to limit boxes or travel for music to speaker, not always easy though.

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38 minutes ago, Muttoninyourears said:

Wow, that's some music collection.

Qobuz has more and works with a Node :P.

(Yes I know streaming isn't the same as owning a music collection :).)

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19 hours ago, hermano said:

Cheers for that as just wondered. I am sitting at 130k tracks and thought about Bluesound but read it starts to get a bit flaky after 100k tracks, and will not support much more (200k is max in optimal condition probably low bitrate mp3, short tracks etc). So not ideal for me unfortunately. I now also avoid Nas as try to limit boxes or travel for music to speaker, not always easy though.

Also I'd be keen to understand on what basis it craps out at that number - the new Node's got a better quad-core processor, so this might help push up that number if the issue is running out of juice to manage such a big index...

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My son bought a Bluesound Pulse 2i speaker. He just streams to it from Spotify, it is very good.

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