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14 hours ago, Elad Repooc said:

I could be wrong but I think this was a rumor that began as a dinner conversation and became wildly blown out of proportion.

There was a bit more to the rumour that I heard. Linn had queried a dealer for feedback on the potential product, from a customer point of view. I heard this from the dealer queried, the actual person, that is.

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How about a Klimax Exaktbox-I? NG case with digital stuff, DACs, crossovers on the ground floor, and class D amps on the floor above. Would it all even fit?

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14 minutes ago, akamatsu said:

How about a Klimax Exaktbox-I? NG case with digital stuff, DACs, crossovers on the ground floor, and class D amps on the floor above. Would it all even fit?

Hum…. It’s a LOT in the same case!
So 3 floors completly isolated.

A very nice idea 😄

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2 minutes ago, Chris 1970 said:

Hum…. It’s a LOT in the same case!
So 3 floors completly isolated.

A very nice idea 😄

Just two floors. Digital below, and analogue upstairs. With EMI isolation between digital and analogue, and acoustic isolation provided by the case.

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1 hour ago, akamatsu said:

Just two floors. Digital below, and analogue upstairs. With EMI isolation between digital and analogue, and acoustic isolation provided by the case.

But you need to be Klimax grade:

1) big card with 6 DAC with his own power supply (like Exakt box)

2) 6 completly separate power amps

3) Preamp with his own power supply

Big space 😊

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15 hours ago, cre009 said:

Linn was registered as a company in February 1973. The ad in HI-Fi News that announced the LP12 was replacing the Ariston RD11 was in the May edition in 1973.

The prototype turntable that initially became the Ariston RD11 was developed by Ivor Tiefenbrun in late 1969 through into 1970 and Ivor told people it was based on the Thorens TD150 design. Ivor had once owned and sold a TD150 and could not get on with a direct drive that replaced it.

Hamish Robertson became involved in 1970 though not clear exactly when. Hamish did some work on the development though unclear how much and the styling was acknowledged by the Tiefenbrun's as down to him. 

Ivor left Glasgow to work in Israel. Not sure when but he had left by early 1971. I understand he intended to settle there and take up citizenship.

Hamish Robertson marketed the Ariston RD11 and it was presented for its first public appearance at the Harrogate show in September 1971.

Following a bust up with Jack Tiefenbrun, Hamish took production of the RD11 to Dunlop-Westayr in late 1971 or early 1972. Advertisements for the RD11 appeared in the December edition of Hi-Fi News in 1972 but I have not seen an RD11 show up that would date to then. Further production of the Dunlop-Westayr RD11 was then halted until late 1973. 

The dispute led to Jack applying for a patent on the bearing in April 1972.

A large batch of Castle built RD11s were factory sold. Not clear when they started the sale but some went out as Ariston RD11 and later on as LP12s. These all had the twin start buttons.

Ivor returned to Glasgow in late 1972. I have read but not been able to verify this was after Gilad was born so last quarter of 1972.  

The dueling Wikipedia entries (Linn Sondek LP12 v Linn Products) are highly misleading. They have been subject to a Wiki war and are distorted as a result. For example the LP12 entry implies the patent hearing was about the similarities between the Ariston RD11 and the Linn LP12. This is absolute nonsense. The patent hearing was about the validity of the bearing patent and whether Jack could use it to prevent Hamish from producing RD11 decks with that bearing elsewhere.

Most of what you’re saying here isn’t generally well known. Where did you get your information?

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4 hours ago, akamatsu said:

How about a Klimax Exaktbox-I? NG case with digital stuff, DACs, crossovers on the ground floor, and class D amps on the floor above. Would it all even fit?

I think it is highly unlikely that Linn would do this degree of integration with a Klimax level electronic piece.  It would take some doing to make Class D amps that could improve on Klimax Solos, right now they haven't even brought them to Akurate level.  I don't see Klimax making a backwards step in power amps and I don't see better amps fitting in a case with crossovers, etc.

The 50th anniversary will be celebrated in 2023 which should be obvious from the 45th anniversary having been celebrated in 2018.

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13 minutes ago, ThomasOK said:

I think it is highly unlikely that Linn would do this degree of integration with a Klimax level electronic piece.  It would take some doing to make Class D amps that could improve on Klimax Solos, right now they haven't even brought them to Akurate level.  I don't see Klimax making a backwards step in power amps and I don't see better amps fitting in a case with crossovers, etc.

Okay. In that case, how about a commemorative turntable mat with a picture of Ivor on it? :D

I'm fresh out of ideas.

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7 hours ago, akamatsu said:

Okay. In that case, how about a commemorative turntable mat with a picture of Ivor on it?


With this commemorative turnable, that would be the best upgrade, ever.

I’m just afraid all DSM on the planet became totally pointless after this release.

Linn has to be aware of that…

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9 hours ago, hannson.design said:

Most of what you’re saying here isn’t generally well known. Where did you get your information?

It is a topic I have researched extensively and still keep a watch for posts on forums.

Like most I was only vaguely aware up to 2016 but had some interest in adding an early Ariston deck to my collection. I looked at information on the web and after looking at posts by Nigel Pearson (Loricraft Garrard 501) on the DIY forum I found the second Hi-Fi News report about the patent hearing in another forum. I then discovered my library carried copies of Hi-Fi News. They retrieved the bound copies from a store for me and I went through them looking for information about the Scottish turntable history from 1970 to the early 80's. This included looking at ads and show reports as well as news items. I was also able to read and photocopy the first patent hearing report that was unavailable on the web.

After writing up the history for my own benefit I then joined a thread at Audiokarma which was occupied by people who were Linn bashing. I was the party pooper but the exercise was highly useful in dragging out additional details.

There is still plenty of stuff I am unclear about but I have established by corroboration that the background provided by the patent hearing officer (detailed in the first Hi-Fi News article) is correct. With 2 substantial written submissions from the 2 sides in front of him and a requirement to be even handed I would expect him to have got the background correct and nothing I have seen leads me to believe he got anything wrong..

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9 hours ago, akamatsu said:

Okay. In that case, how about a commemorative turntable mat with a picture of Ivor on it? :D

Great idea, Ivor on the good sounding side and Gilad on the other side. 😜

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The 40th Anniversary celebrations were in September 2013, so there won't be a 50th celebration in 2022...

However, I'm hoping there'll be a new range of speakers soon - culminating in 2023 with the 50th Anniversary Komri Mk2 (with both integrated Exakt and passive options).

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7 hours ago, Ben Webster said:

Great idea, Ivor on the good sounding side and Gilad on the other side. 😜

A smiley Ivor and a frowny Gilad. :D:(

We've figured it out. Close the thread!

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