Bi-Wiring My Arse

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Well after a break from using the Audionote system I decide to use it again and horror.....the left channel is much quieter than the right....and it sounds very bass light

Ok let's sort this out methodically.......start at the front end and swap the cable over left to right for the DAC, same channel too low

OK let's try a new cable between the DAC and pre, same channel too low

OK let's swap the left and right plugs on the preamp M2, same channel too low

OK its the amp......swap the Emission Labs 300Bs with the TJ 300Bs, same channel too low

OK swap out the valve rectifier for the old one (hoping the Emission labs has not expired) , same channel too low.

OK swap out the small valve drivers etc left and right, same channel too low

OK surely not the speakers......touch the cables...solid.....how about the cable jumper between the bi-wired terminals......BINGO, left channel restored with proper bass not a tinny sound.....

All back to normal.........bloody biwiring......never a big fan of it and now with 2 hours behind me less of a fan.

 

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So, to summarise your post and thread title, you are saying that bi-wiring your backside has resulted in trouble at your bottom end? :dunno:

 

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Loose binding posts have caused volume imbalance for me too - I use a couple of pairs of pliers now - one to hold - one to tighten

 

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confused , why start a thread about bi wiring if you infact use single wire and jumpers ?

 

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I think he is bemoaning the fact that speaker manufacturers pander to the whims of the bi wire fraternity by putting two pairs of binding posts on their products.

 

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The answer is that bi-wire terminals should be outlawed under international law, they are only there to give the infamous "audiophile warm tummy glow". Also interesting to consider the amazing quality of exotic cables used inside a speaker cabinet when thinking about external cabling.

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Well after a break from using the Audionote system I decide to use it again and horror.....the left channel is much quieter than the right....and it sounds very bass lightOk let's sort this out methodically.......start at the front end and swap the cable over left to right for the DAC, same channel too low

OK let's try a new cable between the DAC and pre, same channel too low

OK let's swap the left and right plugs on the preamp M2, same channel too low

OK its the amp......swap the Emission Labs 300Bs with the TJ 300Bs, same channel too low

OK swap out the valve rectifier for the old one (hoping the Emission labs has not expired) , same channel too low.

OK swap out the small valve drivers etc left and right, same channel too low

OK surely not the speakers......touch the cables...solid.....how about the cable jumper between the bi-wired terminals......BINGO, left channel restored with proper bass not a tinny sound.....

All back to normal.........bloody biwiring......never a big fan of it and now with 2 hours behind me less of a fan.
who wired it up in the 1st place ?

 

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Don't try to diagnose anything complicated if "tinny sound on one channel" makes you take about ten steps, including heavy lifting and changing rectifier valves, before checking the speaker connections...

 

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I tried bi-wiring my arse. Inkier blacks, more air, firmer stools.
My point exactly in Post 2, which seemed to pass everyone by. :Tumble:

:bulb: And another thought. Am I misunderstanding the OP - are the speakers biwired, or do they merely have jumpers between biwire posts installed, one of which had worked loose?

 

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John cable jumpers would imply to me .... single cabled to woofers, then jumpers to tweeters. I could be drastically wrong as usual when it comes to cabling though!

 

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John cable jumpers would imply to me .... single cabled to woofers, then jumpers to tweeters. I could be drastically wrong as usual when it comes to cabling though!
Hmmm - that's roughly what I thought he meant. So this isn't a thread about biwiring at all.

It's about biwire posts, and their possible malfunction!

 

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Yup agreed, but always a great opporchancity to ridicule the requirement of such a terminal set up on a speaker. Any minute now someone will be along to suggest full length bi-wiring changed their life ... bald patches reverted to amazon forest follicles ... wives heard the difference putting out the washing in the garden ... etc.

 

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I biwire and link mainly for the reason of the OP. Basically my amp has 2 sets of outputs via separate speaker switches, and I run 2 sets of cables to the speakers which have the bi-wire shorting link. My theory is to keep the resistance low by using all available contacts and sensible size speaker cables. If I remove the link so it is bi-wire in the proper sense there is a different in image,but it extends the width of the sound-stage , but I prefer a more central image.

Alan

 
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I'd hazard the name would start with a "G" and finish with an "eorge".
its odd that it wasnt noticed when 1st wired up, thats my point.

 

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