Do you find it annoying

Emma Royd

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that the mastering of vinyl/cdsare not standard in the tonal area.

Some are bright,some are plummy(dull),most I find are about right,give or take,thankfully.

Put the wrong lp/cd on and it could make your system sound overbright/plummy.

I prefer it slightly on the bright side,but arguably mine sounds a little overbright.

Casing point Paul Simons Gracelands LP,UK pressing is brighter than the German/european pressing,which in my opinion is slightly morepreferable.

 

AmDismal

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Graceland is one of the all-time classic crappy LPs, IMO. Not much you can do with it, it's just rubbish.

Meanwhile, if you're nice and tweaky you could get into VTA adjustment on an album-by-album basis. Not familiar with your TT/arm, so not sure how easy this would be, but it could offset these problems. Or just get better recordings...

 

dudywoxer

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I'm pleased I have bad taste, I enjoy the graceland album, and like the sound balance on the UK copy I have.

 

thrunobulax

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AmDismal wrote:

Graceland is one of the all-time classic crappy LPs, IMO. Not much you can do with it, it's just rubbish.Meanwhile, if you're nice and tweaky you could get into VTA adjustment on an album-by-album basis. Not familiar with your TT/arm, so not sure how easy this would be, but it could offset these problems. Or just get better recordings...
Have you not seen the pete riggle "VTA on the fly" jobbie?

 

Davewhityetagain

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AmDismal wrote:

Meanwhile, if you're nice and tweaky you could get into VTA adjustment on an album-by-album basis. Not familiar with your TT/arm, so not sure how easy this would be, but it could offset these problems. Or just get better recordings...
A search of this site and other forums will gives you links to items on VTA and how little differance it makes

Correct weight and tracking force is much more important as is a clean record
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imo of course :dude:

 

AmDismal

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Davewhityetagain wrote:

AmDismal wrote:
Meanwhile, if you're nice and tweaky you could get into VTA adjustment on an album-by-album basis. Not familiar with your TT/arm, so not sure how easy this would be, but it could offset these problems. Or just get better recordings...
A search of this site and other forums will gives you links to items on VTA and how little differance it makes

Correct weight and tracking force is much more important as is a clean record
smile.png


imo of course :dude:
From the 'gorgeous gadgets' thread:

Testure wrote:

Alex_A wrote:
Testure wrote:
What is that?

Assuming that's a full size platter, and not some quirky CD spinner, then it must be HUGE!
Goldmund Reference II - Limited run of 25 (5 per year) - Beautiful but at a price $300,000
shock.gif.7732780fe7e208b945ce79ca96402fca.gif


Some Specs

[*]Supporting table of extreme rigidity and inertia (250kg) with 100cm platter height for easy manipulation

[*]Dynamically balanced 20 kg platter with level and concentricity calibration to <1/100mm

[*]5-layer platter design (3 metacrylate and 2 brass) with 12 lead damping inserts

[*]Ultra-high precision Swiss-made axis using the 25-years experience in Reference rotational parts design

[*]Cog-free motor with lowest electrical and mechanical noise, shielded and dampened by 15kg of brass

[*]Liquid-nitrogen-rectified belt, as the original Reference - Servo speed capture by optical encoder

[*]Touch controls integrated in the tabletop for the turntable (33 / 45 / 78 rpm) and the T8 tone arm

[*]3 optional pivoting tone arm supports at 120 deg (supports even the 12" SME tone arm)

[*]Specially designed new Goldmund T8 straight-line tone arm with total weight of 7 kg

[*]Using the revolutionary Goldmund "Spherical inserts" (Goldmund patent) for zero-play and zero-vibration

[*]Ultra-precise ball-circulation Linear carrier with zero-play and micron precision

[*]Stylus, pivot and counterweight perfectly aligned for optimal dynamic balance

[*]Universal joint machined from a block with Mecasyl-lubricated zero-play ultra-precise ball bearings

[*]Hyperbolic tracking correction using endless speed-adjusted translation with 1 micron precision

[*]7-layer tone arm tube with progressive lengths, including custom ultra-thin carbon tube

[*]3 built-in Teflon tubes carrying signal wire with no vibration and no magnetostriction effect

[*]Unique hardened-Aluminum headshell especially designed and machined in 3D for zero-resonance

[*]The headshell holds the cartridge and the preamplifier first stage to increase the noise-floor ratio

[*]Motor-driven VTA adjustment with remote-control, allowing height calibration within 1/10 of a millimeter

[*]Calibrated micro-metric Azimut adjustment and electronic stylus alignment

[*]2-layer Titanium counterweight with 2-step adjustments, auto-locked for perfect Mechanical Grounding

[*]Off-angle measurement by progressive analogue optical detector without Led avoiding radiated noise

[*]Exclusive integral limited edition Phono PH8 Preamplifier using the new Goldmund 140dB A/D circuit

[*]Analogue output using the latest new Goldmund Alize 6 D/A circuit with 140dB of dynamics

[*]Digital output using "Swiss Chrono" zero-jitter 96kHz 24 bit connection to Universal Preamp

[*]Built-in digital processor providing RIAA correction, and complete time/phase cartridge compensation

[*]Protected by the Goldmund GPS (Goldmund Parallel Suppressor)

[*]Each turntable installed by a Goldmund Team, with complete calibration included

[*]Limited edition of 25 units only sold on subscription with a maximum production of 5 units per year
So you see, you just need a TT with a digital out...

 

thrunobulax

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AmDismal wrote:

Davewhityetagain wrote:
AmDismal wrote:
Meanwhile, if you're nice and tweaky you could get into VTA adjustment on an album-by-album basis. Not familiar with your TT/arm, so not sure how easy this would be, but it could offset these problems. Or just get better recordings...
A search of this site and other forums will gives you links to items on VTA and how little differance it makes

Correct weight and tracking force is much more important as is a clean record
smile.png


imo of course :dude:
From the 'gorgeous gadgets' thread:

Testure wrote:

Alex_A wrote:
Testure wrote:
What is that?

Assuming that's a full size platter, and not some quirky CD spinner, then it must be HUGE!
Goldmund Reference II - Limited run of 25 (5 per year) - Beautiful but at a price $300,000
shock.gif.7732780fe7e208b945ce79ca96402fca.gif


Some Specs

[*]Supporting table of extreme rigidity and inertia (250kg) with 100cm platter height for easy manipulation

[*]Dynamically balanced 20 kg platter with level and concentricity calibration to <1/100mm

[*]5-layer platter design (3 metacrylate and 2 brass) with 12 lead damping inserts

[*]Ultra-high precision Swiss-made axis using the 25-years experience in Reference rotational parts design

[*]Cog-free motor with lowest electrical and mechanical noise, shielded and dampened by 15kg of brass

[*]Liquid-nitrogen-rectified belt, as the original Reference - Servo speed capture by optical encoder

[*]Touch controls integrated in the tabletop for the turntable (33 / 45 / 78 rpm) and the T8 tone arm

[*]3 optional pivoting tone arm supports at 120 deg (supports even the 12" SME tone arm)

[*]Specially designed new Goldmund T8 straight-line tone arm with total weight of 7 kg

[*]Using the revolutionary Goldmund "Spherical inserts" (Goldmund patent) for zero-play and zero-vibration

[*]Ultra-precise ball-circulation Linear carrier with zero-play and micron precision

[*]Stylus, pivot and counterweight perfectly aligned for optimal dynamic balance

[*]Universal joint machined from a block with Mecasyl-lubricated zero-play ultra-precise ball bearings

[*]Hyperbolic tracking correction using endless speed-adjusted translation with 1 micron precision

[*]7-layer tone arm tube with progressive lengths, including custom ultra-thin carbon tube

[*]3 built-in Teflon tubes carrying signal wire with no vibration and no magnetostriction effect

[*]Unique hardened-Aluminum headshell especially designed and machined in 3D for zero-resonance

[*]The headshell holds the cartridge and the preamplifier first stage to increase the noise-floor ratio

[*]Motor-driven VTA adjustment with remote-control, allowing height calibration within 1/10 of a millimeter

[*]Calibrated micro-metric Azimut adjustment and electronic stylus alignment

[*]2-layer Titanium counterweight with 2-step adjustments, auto-locked for perfect Mechanical Grounding

[*]Off-angle measurement by progressive analogue optical detector without Led avoiding radiated noise

[*]Exclusive integral limited edition Phono PH8 Preamplifier using the new Goldmund 140dB A/D circuit

[*]Analogue output using the latest new Goldmund Alize 6 D/A circuit with 140dB of dynamics

[*]Digital output using "Swiss Chrono" zero-jitter 96kHz 24 bit connection to Universal Preamp

[*]Built-in digital processor providing RIAA correction, and complete time/phase cartridge compensation

[*]Protected by the Goldmund GPS (Goldmund Parallel Suppressor)

[*]Each turntable installed by a Goldmund Team, with complete calibration included

[*]Limited edition of 25 units only sold on subscription with a maximum production of 5 units per year
So you see, you just need a TT with a digital out...
:shock:thats a new one

 

dudywoxer

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it would seem so, but one does have to be aware of he overdraft limit.

 

Emma Royd

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dudywoxer wrote:

I'm pleased I have bad taste, I enjoy the graceland album, and like the sound balance on the UK copy I have.
I think the other bloke may have missed the point.

I like the Graceland album,the sound is ok on the uk pressing,but the german/european pressing is a slightly warmer sound.

 

uzzy

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dudywoxer wrote:

I'm pleased I have bad taste, I enjoy the graceland album, and like the sound balance on the UK copy I have.
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shame bout the music on it though (well boy named al is ok)

 

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