i pods

[Davewhityetagain]

:force::fluch:

between i pod and mp3 whats done to the software ? any bods know ?

 

[Guest]

Davewhityetagain wrote:

:force::fluch:

between i pod and mp3 whats done to the software ? any bods know ?

no difference they're all compressed shit

 

[ob1]

Duvet wrote:

no difference they're all compressed shit

Few months back Hifi choice use ipod with a pair of active spekers (ATC or AVI can't remember) and they said they produced a superb sound or as good as any cd player, (along those line). I haven't buy another issue since!

 

[The Strat]

I await the day an audiophile MP3 is launched. And sure it's going to happen - if Linn can stream hi-res formats it must be feasible.

 

[Guest]

ob1971 wrote:

Duvet wrote:

no difference they're all compressed shit

Few months back Hifi choice use ipod with a pair of active spekers (ATC or AVI can't remember) and they said they produced a superb sound or as good as any cd player, (along those line). I haven't buy another issue since!

:raoflmfao:

 

[Papa Lazarou]

ob1971 wrote:

Duvet wrote:

no difference they're all compressed shit

Few months back Hifi choice use ipod with a pair of active spekers (ATC or AVI can't remember) and they said they produced a superb sound or as good as any cd player, (along those line). I haven't buy another issue since!

That says it all - no wonder HFC forum is going down the toilet.

 

[darrenm]

I think what Dave is asking is about what the iPod software does to the file?? i.e. in terms of copy protection, etc, perhaps?

 

[Headcoat]

just listening to my ipod run from it's dock into the amps and out of the spendor s5e's.

lately i've come to love the shuffle function especially when mates are over.

it sounds good to me...not brilliant but good and that's with stuff compressed at 128 and 196 kbps. even get soundstage depth on some tracks, reasonable detail, good bass with the bass boost on - though admittedly not anyway near the last degree in precise bass notes.

all said and done it's enjoyable for listening and that's what counts.

 

[Headcoat]

Dave - I use AAC format on my Ipod, it's apparently superior to MP3 format, though not as good as Apple lossless (apparently).

Techincally I've no idea of the exact differences between formats i.e. MP3 - AAC - Lossless. Probably slight differences in how they convert and store.

 

[Davewhityetagain]

darrenm wrote:

I think what Dave is asking is about what the iPod software does to the file?? i.e. in terms of copy protection, etc, perhaps?

I am but it will take a few more posts before i get an answer on topic

 

[Headcoat]

above Dave, above...

Just looked in I-tunes you can also convert CD's to MP3, AIFF and WAV formats.

To a layman like me as I said they are simply different file formats, think AVI and .vob files for DVD's.

 

[Guest]

Davewhityetagain wrote:

darrenm wrote:

I think what Dave is asking is about what the iPod software does to the file?? i.e. in terms of copy protection, etc, perhaps?

I am but it will take a few more posts before i get an answer on topic

I'll bet its longer than that :nerd:

 

[darrenm]

I don't use an iPod, but from what I gather if you rip CDs in iTunes it tries to restrict them somehow. Best off to rip them into 'plain' MP3s using software such as CDEX, for example.

 

[Joff]

If you look at an audio CD on your computer its just a load of WAV files. Itunes/ipod can copy these. This should be just the same as the CD and have no additional compression at all. I do this but my CDP still sounds better than the iPod. Not by a huge margin though. Could be down to leads etc.

I think that only music bought from the Itunes store features copy protection and only lets you share it directly with a limited number of computers. You can however burn any amount of audio cds from music you have purchased.

 

[mikedefacto]

use .wav on mine. sounds fine.

 

[kingsxfan]

I store uncompressed albums on mine as .wav, if the CD is say 600MB, it goes on my iPod as the same size. Uses up far more space obviously, doesn't sound that bad when playing through my hifi. I would say it sounds far from crap if you turn off the EQ;if you also consider the price of an iPod, its not a bad sounding piece of kit to have around!

iTunes is not the best software though, I use a freeware program called Ephpod. You can move music backwards and forwards between your iPod and any other PC that has Ephpod installed.

 

[mikedefacto]

uncompressed wav I can fit 2 daysworth of music on my 30gb... mp3 is completely redundant IMO

 

[uzzy]

darrenm wrote:

I think what Dave is asking is about what the iPod software does to the file?? i.e. in terms of copy protection, etc, perhaps?

All I know is I bought my daughter an Ipod (20 gig thingy) second hand. It had a load of stuff on it that my other daughter wanted but there was no way to transfer the ipod stuff back to the pc (guess it is their protection) - I did a web search and got a freebie shareware programme that allowed me to rip it from the ipod to the hard drive on the pc as mp3 format and then uploaded it to other daughters Zen.

As such I would conclude it is Mp3 or very similar unlike the sony minidisc atrec compression which cannot be ripped to hard drive and converted to anything else (unfortunately).

And as to quality the minidisc recordings sound better than the ipod ones when played back through the hifi and neither sound as good as the original CD

Uzzy

 

[Jezzer]

The ipod isn't 'hifi' just as all walkmen (apart from the Sony WM-D6C) weren't hifi...

Having said that, I do like the ipod for its convenience:

- in the car (though its 'softer' sounding than the cd changer)

- via the amp (or Tivoli in the garden/kitchen) at home playing through a playlist when guests are round

- or simply via my etymotics or HD25s....

Most of my AACs (which sound better than MP3s) are 256 kbps and they sound pretty good....