Is this possible for a new system?

trumpetman

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My mind is made up - Olive 3HD is going, want to get a computer based system, but I don't want to stream

My experiments with a laptop, usb dac, jriver trial have been eye openingly brilliant and thoroughly enjoyable and thanks for all your advice in my earlier post.

At the mo it ain't very neat and user friendly - cables here and there and laptop in a silly place due to cable length.

Would this possible? Synology NAS in the room, connected to the wireless network using a repeater/booster, usb dac (probably m2 tech hiface) plugged into NAS and then straight into amp - but I can't sort out where and how I would get jriver in the equation and on what device to give wire free tablet type interface.

Probably not made myself particularly clear - I know you'll have a go at helping me

Thanks as always Cheers

trumpetman

 

vacdac

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Syno NAS could work with a hard wired repeater/extender. Would this not not be a possible option? I think some routers can be configured as access points on your LAN & cat 6 ethernet cables are fine with long runs. Depends whether its possible to install these discretely/whether it's simply too much ballache. The Syno DS213 Air may well be a simpler solution that could be added to your wi-fi network. Our own Gyro has one & covered his NAS migration some time back on a thread here. I think there's a link to it in my Synology NAS thread. As I recall Gyro commented on the DS213 Air being configured in 'pants down' security mode when first set up, so you'd need to configure this appropriately.

Also check compatibility of USB DACs with Syno NAS's. I think the M2 tech stuff is fine & I think there may be a link to compatibility lists in my NAS thread. If not there's a thread on the Syno user forum + another list of devices tested by Syno on their site.

This seems a smart solution to me, I know it works well & can deliver excellent SQ. :stereo: You can spec decent sized HD's, allowing for future library expansion & would be good to go for adding streaming devices at any point in the future. :cool:

Best not contact Gyro re this for now, as he's just had an operatiion AFAIK he's likely still in the hozzy. :hug: :flowers:

 

rockabillybass

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I wonder whether you would be better with a silent mini PC sat with the rest of your hifi.

Not sure why you want to go the nas route at the moment. Even a 1tb drive in the pc would hold stacks of music. 2 or 3tbs would be enough for almost anyone.

If it had Windows you could install Jriver and control it headlessly from your laptop or from any ios/android device with jremote or gizmo. Also you're not going to get any issues using a USB dac.

 

vacdac

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From Synology site re DS213 Air>>> .http://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=DS213air〈=uk.

Looks like a variety of options are available & a minimum of wires for an installation looks possible...only USB from the rear of the NAS would be needed to the DAC.

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Synology DS213air is not only a NAS, with built-in Wi-Fi® adaptor, DS213air can serve as a wireless access point and provide Wi-Fi coverage in hard to reach locations such as rooms too far away from the router, or different floors. The included software components make it easy to build a fast, robust and secure wireless IP network from scratch. The DS213air is all the gear needed for your home/office wireless networking environments, plus terabytes of storage and cloud applications.
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Looks like placement should be easy enough & neat too with this option.

 

trumpetman

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I wonder whether you would be better with a silent mini PC sat with the rest of your hifi.Not sure why you want to go the nas route at the moment. Even a 1tb drive in the pc would hold stacks of music. 2 or 3tbs would be enough for almost anyone.

If it had Windows you could install Jriver and control it headlessly from your laptop or from any ios/android device with jremote or gizmo. Also you're not going to get any issues using a USB dac.
I do like the sound of that suggestion rockabillybass, is that what you do? What sort of unit would you suggest?

Cheers

trumpetman

- - - Updated - - -

Thanks again vacdac - very thorough as always, - just trawling through the synology stuff to see if the m2tech hiface is compatible

Cheers

trumpetman

 

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Using a Linux based NAS when you prefer JRiver sounds like hard work!

I'd be thinking pick up an Acer Revo R3600 2nd hand, make sure it's the version with Windows 7 to install JRiver! Then add an TB external disk, connected to its fast eSATA port and the DAC on one of the USB ports. There's also an HDMI connection and wireless mouse/keyboard for use connected to the TV, it runs iPlayer well.

I ran this combo and it is pretty much silent for use in same room as hifi.

 

vacdac

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Using a Linux based NAS when you prefer JRiver sounds like hard work!I'd be thinking pick up an Acer Revo R3600 2nd hand, make sure it's the version with Windows 7 to install JRiver! Then add an TB external disk, connected to its fast eSATA port and the DAC on one of the USB ports. There's also an HDMI connection and wireless mouse/keyboard for use connected to the TV, it runs iPlayer well.

I ran this combo and it is pretty much silent for use in same room as hifi.
Hi Calum,

I think it's rather a case of Trumpetman, having tried J-River & liking the SQ. As he hasn't tried the Syno NAS option outputting to a DAC via USB:nup:. How can he have a preference? :)

From an SQ point of view. With both outputting bit-perfect digital audio into a separate DAC it should be level pegging.

 

rockabillybass

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I do like the sound of that suggestion rockabillybass, is that what you do? What sort of unit would you suggest?Cheers

trumpetman
Have a look at this site. They have quite a range of stuff. I've not used them but it'll give you an idea of prices.

Ambros Computers

I was quite an early adopter of PC based music systems. I have a Tranquil PC T7, which is a dual core Atom based system. It's about 5 years old now, runs XP and Jriver and has 2 meg of ram.

I also run it as a DLNA server for movies and it copes perfectly with material up to 720p, even if Jriver has to transcode on the fly.

 

Chumpy

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All of the very best audio.

I advise playing your audio into nice sys.

Am off now to check e.g. Linn 770000kps files of bollox-performers.

Enjoy.

Faberge expects you to pay more for e.g. an e.g.g.

 

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