Linn Selekt Edition stereo Organik vs dual mono

[Myself]

Did anyone have the chance to listen to the stereo organik Edition vs the dual mono organik Edition? And if so, what was the main difference / how large was the difference (and even compared to the Klimax Organik).

Dealers in my neighbourhood only have the dual mono available at this point in time

 

[Myself]

My dealer received the stereo organik edition and i had a comparison today.

to compare i had the akurate (katalyst), edition stereo organik dac en edition dual mono. Amplifier was a klimax twin

every step was indeed a noticable step up.
from akurate to stereo organik mainly showed a much wider soundstage. Depth increase and noise level was lower, more details, better separation of voice and instruments and a ’faster’ reponse.

from stereo to dual mono, the stage again became wider (20% or so), deeper, noise level dropped even more, allowing all micro details to be heard a lot more. Instruments sounded erm…. in more layers, micro dynamics were noticable better which resulted into being pulled into the music even more (for instance on wheels from fink from the rco album). That gitar was just so much more. The first couple of notes of liberty reveiled lots of spacial info i've never heard.

i went in to convince myself to get myself a edition stereo organic and that was a no brainer vs my akurate (which is still a very good pre-amp/streamer). But i ended up convincing myself that the additional 4K for the dual mono was worth the extra money…..

 

[silkie]

My dealer received the stereo organik edition and i had a comparison today.

to compare i had the akurate (katalyst), edition stereo organik dac en edition dual mono. Amplifier was a klimax twin

every step was indeed a noticable step up.
from akurate to stereo organik mainly showed a much wider soundstage. Depth increase and noose level was lowel, more details, better separation of voice and instruments and a ’faster’ reponse.

from stereo to dual mono, the stage again became wider (20% or so), deeper, noise level dropped even more, allowing all micro details to be heard a lot more. Instruments sounded erm…. In more layers, micro dynamics were noticable better which resulted into being pulled into the music even more (for instance on wheels from fink from the rco album). That gitar was just so much more. The first couple of notes of liberty reveiled lots of spacial info ive never heard.

i went in to convince myself to get myself a edition stereo organic and that was a no brainer vs my akurate (which is still a very good pre-amp/streamer). But i ended up convincing myself that the additional 4K for the dual mono was worth the extra money…..

I ordered stereo line out in my selekt edition... I can see me upgrading in a couple of years!

I demo'd the mono setup... it is nice. I can't see me being disappointed though with Stereo line out. Even if I am, that was my financial limit, so kind of "tough tits" if I am!! Let's face it, if I didn't have financial limits I'd have taken the Klimax

Orgaink will be a setup up from Katalyst whichever way you cut it. My comparison was against my ADSM/3(Kat).

 

[silkie]

My other consideration here was if Exakt was on my upgrade path, I'd like to keep my options open at this stage. You'll never get to Exakt with dual mono.

 

[Myself]

I ordered stereo line out in my selekt edition... I can see me upgrading in a couple of years!

I demo'd the mono setup... it is nice. I can't see me being disappointed though with Stereo line out. Even if I am, that was my financial limit, so kind of "tough tits" if I am!! Let's face it, if I didn't have financial limits I'd have taken the Klimax

Orgaink will be a setup up from Katalyst whichever way you cut it. My comparison was against my ADSM/3(Kat).

aye, I also compared against the ADSM/3(Kat) and indeed the biggest step is into the edition with organik stereo DAC.

I blame it on myself as I was the one who asked to demo the dual mono too, as i thought it would act as a confirmation that yes, more expensive is indeed more.. nicer... but wasnt worth the extra money. But darn it was and i really wanted to convince myself that it wasnt.

And yes, I also know that once you have a beautiful upgrade, which the stereo organik is, i would never compare it at home vs something else and would forget about the differences

 

[Bladvoc]

aye, I also compared against the ADSM/3(Kat) and indeed the biggest step is into the edition with organik stereo DAC.

I blame it on myself as I was the one who asked to demo the dual mono too, as i thought it would act as a confirmation that yes, more expensive is indeed more.. nicer... but wasnt worth the extra money. But darn it was and i really wanted to convince myself that it wasnt.

And yes, I also know that once you have a beautiful upgrade, which the stereo organik is, i would never compare it at home vs something else and would forget about the differences

Interesting, i'm very likely to order the organik dual mono classik version, being similar price to stereo organik edition version. Not listened to them both to do a comparison but thinking that the bigger bang for my buck would be the dual mono rather then the casework.

 

[Andy hunter]

that was my thinking, thought it was better to go dual organik than get the edition casework and dont use headphones

 

[akamatsu]

Interesting, i'm very likely to order the organik dual mono classik version, being similar price to stereo organik edition version. Not listened to them both to do a comparison but thinking that the bigger bang for my buck would be the dual mono rather then the casework.

I would think the opposite. Perhaps it would be worth a listen to make sure.

 

[Myself]

Interesting, i'm very likely to order the organik dual mono classik version, being similar price to stereo organik edition version. Not listened to them both to do a comparison but thinking that the bigger bang for my buck would be the dual mono rather then the casework.

Hmmmm, indeed that will make for a very interesting head to head battle.
i am not sure on the outcome. Good i didnt add this one to my demo session

 

[entdgc]

Interesting, i'm very likely to order the organik dual mono classik version, being similar price to stereo organik edition version. Not listened to them both to do a comparison but thinking that the bigger bang for my buck would be the dual mono rather then the casework.

Your £'s so your choice (and I am with you in thinking DAC would be the bigger upgrade) but my concern would be that to upgrade from stereo to mono DAC's would be an easier (cheaper?) route for a future upgrade than replacing the casework. And you know once the upgrade itch starts you WILL want to scratch it...

 

[Kenilworth]

Interesting, i'm very likely to order the organik dual mono classik version, being similar price to stereo organik edition version. Not listened to them both to do a comparison but thinking that the bigger bang for my buck would be the dual mono rather then the casework.

You would have an easy future upgrade option (to the dual mono) with the edition stereo. With the classic dual mono, you would have to trade in to upgrade.

The Selekt classic case always felt a bit insubstantial (tinny?) to me. I thought that might effect both the sound and the (tactile) enjoyment. Not so with the edition. That said, I know that this is comes down to a personal choice; we each need to evaluate based on what we value in our system.

 

[Myself]

i've yet to read what the key difference is between the classic and edition, besides different case, slightly larger display, the headset output. It would be interesting to know if the PCB and components are the same.

In other words, is the edition an upgrade from the classic or a downgrade from the klimax (which the akurate used to be, same components, just less of them compared to klimax)

 

[Bladvoc]

Thanks all.
Not been able to do a side by side comparison of the 2 alternatives but i was going to change my system from exakt to passive a few months ago with the 'old' (now classik) selekt with kat. Thought it looked okay then and nothing changed to make me think any different. So update the innards with dual mono organik and job done. Will certainly be an upgrade on my exisitng akurate system.
Going to pair it with a klimax twin and keep my 212's (for the time being at least)

 

[silkie]

Thanks all.
Not been able to do a side by side comparison of the 2 alternatives but i was going to change my system from exakt to passive a few months ago with the 'old' (now classik) selekt with kat. Thought it looked okay then and nothing changed to make me think any different. So update the innards with dual mono organik and job done. Will certainly be an upgrade on my exisitng akurate system.
Going to pair it with a klimax twin and keep my 212's (for the time being at least)

That will be very nice!!!

 

[Myself]

I expect the edition to have better shielding than the classic so its pretty hard to predict how much that does vs dual mono.

at the end of the day, organik is a very nice upgrade

 

[JayC]

I had both the dual and single Organik dacs on loan from my dealer, and yes the dual is a little better but the difference was not worth the 4k uplift in cost. I would say the dual is 5-10% better then the single if pushed.

Any buyer would be happy with a single Organik, a massive improvement over Katalyst!

 

[Goon525]

I realise that these percentages are pretty hard to quantify, but I suspect many here would consider a 5-10% uplift is indeed worth the cost increase. We’re well into the region where the law of diminishing returns inevitably applies.

 

[Moomintroll]

I realise that these percentages are pretty hard to quantify, but I suspect many here would consider a 5-10% uplift is indeed worth the cost increase. We’re well into the region where the law of diminishing returns inevitably applies.

As I said before, it‘s either better or it isn’t. If it’s better, do you want to pay the cost of entry?
When we demoed the KDSM/3 last year, as expensive as it was, we knew we wouldn’t be happy listening to Katalyst, once we heard what it wasn‘t doing.

’troll

 

[Bladvoc]

ok, having spent a bit more time with my dealer and balancing cost vs performance i've just pulled the trigger on an edition hub with stereo organic and a klimax twin.

Seems the benefit of dual mono in a classic is offset by the benefit in performance of the edition casework. Cost wise quite similar so makes sense to go for the edition.

Just got to wait for it now.

 

[silkie]

Just got to wait for it now.

That's the hard part!!