Please don't YooHoo glue Lowther and other foam surrounds

David Pinnegar

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Nov 26, 2010
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Hi!

Having run effectively a 30 channel hifi on an electronic concert organ for some years, some channels of which use Lowther drivers, and doing outside events using Lowther speakers for sound reinforcement, over the years I've become a dab hand at repairing the beasts.

For some time I've been lining up units needing refoaming and voice coil repairs and inspired by Lowther friends bringing me theirs, they're all getting done in one batch.

The worst job is cleaning off the old foam. It's foul. Worse, the glue: many types of which won't pull off nor be dissolved by meths or other solvent. But worse is when, especially the spider, has been smothered in a plastic glue like UHU glue or other PVC adhesive. It goes hard and if spilt on the paper cannot be removed without damaging the paper.

If you're tempted to stick cracked foams together to eek a wee bit more life out of them then copydex, a liquid latex, is quite good although does harden too much if applied thickly, or Isoflex special roofing primer which is a transparent liquid rubber. However, you can use a thimbleful of glue and the whole tin goes off in three weeks. One can paint the whole of a foam with this and it will last indefinitely.

Years ago someone gave me the tip that Damp Start plastic spray used to seal car electrics can be sprayed onto foams and this makes them last indefinitely. I have tried doing this with a foam carefully removed from a unit and it increases the stiffness of the foam. Perhaps it's possible to flex it to restore some of the suppleness but that may break down the effect of keeping the foam structure together.

Perhaps, however, spraying damp start onto new foams, provided they are manipulated to restore lost softness, might provide some degree of surface protection against the forces of decay. . . .

Best wishes

David P

 

David Pinnegar

Wammer
Wammer
Nov 26, 2010
95
17
23
Hi!

If anyone's interested as to how effective full range drivers can be, http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=RD9FFPhyRd4

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are the results. Some of these channels carrying critical tonalities use Lowther drivers whilst others use other full range drivers in Audiovector top horns which I've cast in expanding foam. Other stops use Altec VOTT treble horns and the 128ft stop going down to 4 Hz uses two 18 inch units vented into the floor and a partition wall which had to be reinforced to prevent it being shaken apart.

Whilst working on the current batch of reconing I have been able to try cones on different magnets. The AER efficiency claim is strange as very clearly Lowther PM2A PM2C and PM5 and DX4 units are more efficient. What the AER does is to use a wider magnet gap, giving less required precision in mounting and circularity, and a thicker pole piece for larger displacement. The voice coil is only half the mass of the Lowther, which compensates in the treble department. When put on a Lowther magnet the AER cone sounds harsh as a result, particularly with the PM2C. When a Lowther cone is used, the slight high frequency resonance of the PM2C is audible, and the PM2A is great and the PM5 gives a slightly smoother sound with enhanced smooth treble at the top. The DX4 is somewhat between the PM2A and PM5, nearer the PM5 but the PM5 is smoother. In the TP1B I can't justifiably hear a difference between PM5 and DX4

Which unit would I really go for out of preference? The PM5 . . .

Best wishes

David P

 

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