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What is the lowest price for a Linn streamer, because inexpensive means different things to different people. The Linn forum has plenty of software issues posts.
Linn can be bought in specialist shops. The dealer then comes home and installs the system. Then the system works. Of course, you can make different demands on your software. I'm happy with it. Don't need software that introduces me to musicians or displays lyrics. I just want to listen to music. By the way, Linn dealers also sell used equipment.
 
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Linn can be bought in specialist shops. The dealer then comes home and installs the system. Then the system works. Of course, you can make different demands on your software. I'm happy with it. Don't need software that introduces me to musicians or displays lyrics. I just want to listen to music. By the way, Linn dealers also sell used equipment.
Cheapest is £3,155? People have problems, network, connecting, signing on, software update delays etc. So the dealer will come out everytime you have a problem for free?
 

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Not what I would call inexpensive, to me thats under £1,000. I wonder how much money goes towards the dealer, if they have to provide that service, which is unlike most other brands.
I don't want to advertise a company just because I'm happy with it. The 3000€ refer to a DSM, i.e. a device that includes preamplifiers and streamers. Of course, that's a lot of money, without any ifs or buts. However, there are also pure streamers as used devices, your dealer in your area will be able to advise you. Linn dealers are sustainable and take back devices later on further purchases. But no matter, it's just the way I went.
 

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I don't want to advertise a company just because I'm happy with it. The 3000€ refer to a DSM, i.e. a device that includes preamplifiers and streamers. Of course, that's a lot of money, without any ifs or buts. However, there are also pure streamers as used devices, your dealer in your area will be able to advise you. Linn dealers are sustainable and take back devices later on further purchases. But no matter, it's just the way I went.
I may try a Linn streamer if I go to a dealer that has them. Will be interesting to compare the Linn with the Bluesound. £3,000 is way more than I want to spend though.
 
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I may try a Linn streamer if I go to a dealer that has them. Will be interesting to compare the Linn with the Bluesound. £3,000 is way more than I want to spend though.
Going used would be your best option but 1k would buy only first Akurate which IMO isn't greatest , DS3 Katalyst is way better but we're talking just below 3k atm . You don't need a dealer to set it up for you as it should be sort of plug and play but you would need to buy network switch as per my earlier post , cheap TP Link would be good enough , in case of any problems there is lot of guys willing to help but as I said earlier only problem I have experienced was firewall/anti virus settings stopping updates. Only annoying thing is need to install Konfig software to set it up and get updates which should be available in a control app IMO.
 

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Going used would be your best option but 1k would buy only first Akurate which IMO isn't greatest , DS3 Katalyst is way better but we're talking just below 3k atm . You don't need a dealer to set it up for you as it should be sort of plug and play but you would need to buy network switch as per my earlier post , cheap TP Link would be good enough , in case of any problems there is lot of guys willing to help but as I said earlier only problem I have experienced was firewall/anti virus settings stopping updates. Only annoying thing is need to install Konfig software to set it up and get updates which should be available in a control app IMO.
I have a switch already, Cisco. Im not really looking to change my Node2 unless this QoBuz issue persists. Apparently QoBuz changed some settings which has affected Apple devices, there is meant to be an Apple update in a few days time. If I do change probably buy a used one for around £500. Some new streamers on the market get good reviews such as the iFi, only £400. There is an Allo also. In the future I may demo some more expensive streamers but still won't want to spend near £3k. There are plenty around £2k new, which used can get for around £1k.

A bake off would be good to compare some streamers.
 
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I have a switch already, Cisco. Im not really looking to change my Node2 unless this QoBuz issue persists. Apparently QoBuz changed some settings which has affected Apple devices, there is meant to be an Apple update in a few days time. If I do change probably buy a used one for around £500. Some new streamers on the market get good reviews such as the iFi, only £400. There is an Allo also. In the future I may demo some more expensive streamers but still won't want to spend near £3k. There are plenty around £2k new, which used can get for around £1k.

A bake off would be good to compare some streamers.
Fair enough , I'd say you're correct at 1k you should be able to get a better streamer than used Akurate DS/0 .
 

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Update: There is a new BluOs App on the Apple store which should fix the QoBuz playlists issue.

Did not fix my issue with dropouts though. I will try Tidal or Deezer next, see if that is a problem. Bluesound are saying its caused by my network, Im not convinced, it only started straight after the firmware update. Im using a wired connection as well not wifi.
 

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Update: There is a new BluOs App on the Apple store which should fix the QoBuz playlists issue.

Did not fix my issue with dropouts though. I will try Tidal or Deezer next, see if that is a problem. Bluesound are saying its caused by my network, Im not convinced, it only started straight after the firmware update. Im using a wired connection as well not wifi.
Thanks, Stingray. Also iOS 15.5 released. All back to lightening fast after playlists reluctant to load. Good luck with the drop out problem. A mystery and very frustrating.
 

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Thanks, Stingray. Also iOS 15.5 released. All back to lightening fast after playlists reluctant to load. Good luck with the drop out problem. A mystery and very frustrating.
Yes only started after their firmware update. I can play Radio Paradise for hours without any problem but QoBuz now keeps dropping out. They are blaming my network. Contract ends tomorrow I will try Tidal or Deezer.

Apparently iOS 15.5 is not contented to Bluesound at all.
 

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Apparently iOS 15.5 is not contented to Bluesound at all.

It’s OK here. The playlist issue is resolved with the BluOS App update, unfortunately almost 3 weeks of my very first trial of QoBuz has passed with no playlist access so I may well have to sign up SWMBO for a trial …



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It’s OK here. The playlist issue is resolved with the BluOS App update, unfortunately almost 3 weeks of my very first trial of QoBuz has passed with no playlist access so I may well have to sign up SWMBO for a trial …



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Bluesound suggested if rebooting the Node and then rebooting my router does not work, I use DNS 1.1.1.1 which I have never heard of. Seems to be some sort of VPN which could be good for security.

But still did not work and internet is much slower now.
 
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Update on my QoBuz/Node issues, nothing has been fixed despite working with Bluesound support, they dont seem to have a clue, just getting me to try different things and now blaming other parties such as BT. I did not extend my QoBuz contact because of the problems, Radio Paradise plays without any dropouts.

I'm convinced this has been caused by their firmware update of 26 April, I never had an issue before that.

There was a similar issue last year with Tidal, which was traced back to jitter which affected some DACs, following an update.

I may try Tidal or Deezer and see if there is any issues.

But as far as I'm concerned Bluesound have wrecked QoBuz for me.
 

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My QoBuz gone totally out of Sync this morning. Done a few scanning and resets no luck just yet. No problems playing from hard drive just QoBuz.
Anyone else experiencing this?
 

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My QoBuz gone totally out of Sync this morning. Done a few scanning and resets no luck just yet. No problems playing from hard drive just QoBuz.
Anyone else experiencing this?

My trial ended today - Loads of issues in the last 4 weeks and the inability to use playlists for almost 3 weeks meant I really didn’t have much confidence in using QoBuz through my Node 2i. Spotify, Deezer, Tidal, Radio Paradise and my NAS all work faultlessly so I’m not inclined to pay up the annual charge.
 

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