Thank you for your very kind offer - I have found a shop in Brighton that can do 9mm 16-ply birch at £25 per shelf. The shelves would weigh just under 830 grams, which is much lighter than the Naim glass.
The shelf under my LP12 weighs 945g, and measures 35cm by 45cm.
I was poking around on Hifishark and came across an AudioTech stand for sale. I noticed it was located in the Seattle area. I reached out to the seller as I had already planned a trip to Portland with a lunch stop in Seattle. Well, my lunch plan happened to be at a restaurant eight minutes from the seller's house. The deal was done, and lunch was shared. Then I started thinking about how long before a third AudioTech stand would surface. I decided not to wait and see, so I ordered the NOKTable from @ThomasOK . Arrived Monday, set up yesterday, Tuesday. Everything is level and stable. I'm just completely amazed by how such a small change can provide so much more insight into the music. DSing was noticeably more detailed than before. I was just hearing things I hadn't heard before. Last night I put on a couple of LPs. I ended with Kate Bush's live version of the "Ninth Wave," one of my favourites. It was simply a different experience from before. So much more detail was coming through. I could really get a sense of being at the theatre.
I did procure a couple more Baltic birch shelves. So there may still be some improvement to be had. We shall see.
Thanks to @Ben Webster for the gentle nudge.
I did procure a couple more Baltic birch shelves. So there may still be some improvement to be had. We shall see.
Thanks to @Ben Webster for the gentle nudge.
Very tidy setup (apart, of course, from the wires protruding beyond the external perimeters of the standsYou were right, much much better.
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Since I've settled on locations of components, I can measure and get the correct length cables.Very tidy setup (apart, of course, from the wires protruding beyond the external perimeters of the stands
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Just airbrush them out of any photos. Good enough for Linn…Since I've settled on locations of components, I can measure and get the correct length cables.
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I believe Linn just doesn't use wires in the first place - easier than airbrushing. A lot of companies take photos that way. In some cases it might even help the perfromance?
Messy cables may sound better because of the distance between the cables. I avoid parallel cables.I tidied up the cables a bit.
But your pictures look very good.
In my case, old habits, and misconceptions die hard. When I was tidying, I kept thinking about separating the cables. I've tested and it makes no difference between power cables and Exaktlink cables. Listening now. Sounds no different from the messy cables.
P.S. I also replaced the stock power cable (18 gauge, 6 feet long) to the DSM with a 14 gauge 3 foot cable. It made no difference in sound.
Fredrik and I have found that the components are most musical with the 6+ foot, 18 gauge cables that Lejonklou or Linn provide. The higher gauge is not as musical there. However, a 14 or 16 gauge shorter version of the same quality of cable to a power strip that feeds the components is an improvement.In my case, old habits, and misconceptions die hard. When I was tidying, I kept thinking about separating the cables. I've tested and it makes no difference between power cables and Exaktlink cables. Listening now. Sounds no different from the messy cables.
P.S. I also replaced the stock power cable (18 gauge, 6 feet long) to the DSM with a 14 gauge 3 foot cable. It made no difference in sound.
I just re-leveled the NOKTable. It needed to be lowered a bit on the left side. I did this using the spikes at the floor. I guess this is the correct way as the spikes pointing upward are difficult to get to. The AudioTech allows for leveling with the upward pointing spikes. I guess its just something to get used to. Listening to an LP with the freshly leveled NOKTable in play. Fantastic!
Yes, it is easier with the bottom spikes as the top ones are shorter. One of the things I changed with this design was going to top spikes with a rounded point. I found that the sharp points would dig into the board (as is obvious looking at the bottom of most boards on Archidee and Audiotech stands) and it sounds worse when that happens. You can move the board slightly to a fresh area but after a while you have a number of pits in the board. The rounded top spikes avoids this and sound better.
One other tip for setup is to adjust the top spikes with the LP12 off and make sure that the empty board presses on all four spikes equally. The way to test for this is to tap each corner above the spike and make sure none of them rattle. On all the spikes the nuts should just be a touch beyond snug, not very tight (no, I don't actually have a torque for this). I'd say snug with your fingers and then about 1/8th turn with a crescent wrench. There may be a small improvement by having less rather than more of the spike threads extending out of the bottom.
Yes. We are on the same page. I did follow the included instructions, which says what you are saying here. When leveling a stand, I always level from bottom to top, first the frame, then the platform, and finally the LP12 platter. I do like the rounded upward spikes for the reason you stated. With the AudioTech and relatively soft birch wood platform, I was re-leveling too often. I'm thinking the NOKTable will be more set it and forget it, and least forget it for a while. It's good to check periodically.
All in all, I'm so glad I sprung for the NOKTable. As I said before, the extra 4 inches of height makes a comfortable difference. And each component on it's own stand is the ultimate in my opinion (disclaimer: my opinions have nothing to do with @Ben Webster 's opinions)
Have you had anyone get a NOKTable for their DSM? I would recommend it.
I have a European distributor and he was using three NOKTables at some shows, one for an LP12, one for a streamer and one for a Lejonklou Boazu integrated amp. He was quite pleased with the results. I don't know if anyone else is using it that way.Yes. We are on the same page. I did follow the included instructions, which says what you are saying here. When leveling a stand, I always level from bottom to top, first the frame, then the platform, and finally the LP12 platter. I do like the rounded upward spikes for the reason you stated. With the AudioTech and relatively soft birch wood platform, I was re-leveling too often. I'm thinking the NOKTable will be more set it and forget it, and least forget it for a while. It's good to check periodically.
All in all, I'm so glad I sprung for the NOKTable. As I said before, the extra 4 inches of height makes a comfortable difference. And each component on it's own stand is the ultimate in my opinion (disclaimer: my opinions have nothing to do with @Ben Webster 's opinions)
Have you had anyone get a NOKTable for their DSM? I would recommend it.
I have to say that the NG Klimax DSM Hub on it's own stand does resolve more than being on a shared stand. And at this level, a small change does result in quite a bit more access to the music. Highly recommended.
Swapped out the NOKTable shelf for Baltic birch one I was using before. It does sound really good. But then, it sounded really good before. I can't tell if it's an improvement. I don't think it sounds worse. The NOKTable shelf is 1600g. The birch one is 945g. I'll do some listening tonight. It's hard to tell if there's a difference listening in hifi mode. I need to just let the music take over.
I also have shelves for the other two components.
I also have shelves for the other two components.
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