The internal Phonostage of the Select DSM is very similar to the old Linto - just my experience.
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Klaus
I still have my Linto,the remaining remnant of my long gone LK collection...cart of choice on the Ekos 2 is a Dyn XX2MK2....sounds wunderbar!.
But if I understand correctly, the Selekt phono and analogue inputs go through an ADC.
In this case, can the Selekt phono input be similar to the Linto?
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I haven't heard a Selekt Phono Stage and so cant comment as to how it compares to a Uphorik. I do however have an ASH and would be surprised if the Selekt PS bettered the one in the ASH. On certain cartridges I did prefer the Linto to the ASH but I found this a marginal difference and it wasn't until I had the Uphorik that I felt there was any substantial improvement. The Uphorik allows so much more flexibility when it comes to cartridge matching. I personally prefer the Uphorik to the Urika (1). The Uphorik goes through the ADC in the ASH too.
Thank you for your answers.
I will clarify the context of my question a little.
I have just ordered my first LP12.
I already have 2 turntables (Garrard & Audio Note) but I didn't have an LP12 yet.
To start with I chose the LP12 Majik Krane with the Lingo4 and Trampolin as changes. I think this is a good start for further upgrades.
This LP12 is intended for the system I have in the office room at home, which at the moment is only a Stax headphone system. I am thinking of adding a pair of small active speakers (PSI or ATC)
Rather than describe this system I enclose a diagram below.
For a few months I'll be using a small Pro-Ject phono stage that I have in a drawer but I'll soon change it.
I have considered 2 alternatives.
1/ an Uphorik, an additional device that will connect to the Stax amp
2/ or a Selekt DSM Katalyst which, in addition to its phono stage function, could replace the SOtM SMS-200, the iFi micro iUSB3.0 and the Chord Hugo2.
Also I'm going to switch the Stax SRM-353X for the SRM-700S which allows to bypass its preamplifier part. In this case, it might be interesting to use the preamplifier part of the Selekt DSM Katalyst ?
Your opinions, remarks and advice are welcome on these 2 alternatives.
I will clarify the context of my question a little.
I have just ordered my first LP12.
I already have 2 turntables (Garrard & Audio Note) but I didn't have an LP12 yet.
To start with I chose the LP12 Majik Krane with the Lingo4 and Trampolin as changes. I think this is a good start for further upgrades.
This LP12 is intended for the system I have in the office room at home, which at the moment is only a Stax headphone system. I am thinking of adding a pair of small active speakers (PSI or ATC)
Rather than describe this system I enclose a diagram below.
For a few months I'll be using a small Pro-Ject phono stage that I have in a drawer but I'll soon change it.
I have considered 2 alternatives.
1/ an Uphorik, an additional device that will connect to the Stax amp
2/ or a Selekt DSM Katalyst which, in addition to its phono stage function, could replace the SOtM SMS-200, the iFi micro iUSB3.0 and the Chord Hugo2.
Also I'm going to switch the Stax SRM-353X for the SRM-700S which allows to bypass its preamplifier part. In this case, it might be interesting to use the preamplifier part of the Selekt DSM Katalyst ?
Your opinions, remarks and advice are welcome on these 2 alternatives.
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You are right StellanH.
It is between these two processings that I must choose.
The difficulty is that I don't really know the ADC/DAC conversion.
In my mind listening to vinyl has always been analogue. But I read the Urika 1 vs Urika 2 thread and many seem to prefer Urika2
There is also another parameter I have to consider in this choice : I have always had some reservations about devices with a modular architecture. This is probably unfounded as the Selekt has the reputation of being an excellent device.
I have got a question about the Selekt,Katalyst : is it ready for an Exakt link with the Urika2?
It is between these two processings that I must choose.
The difficulty is that I don't really know the ADC/DAC conversion.
In my mind listening to vinyl has always been analogue. But I read the Urika 1 vs Urika 2 thread and many seem to prefer Urika2
There is also another parameter I have to consider in this choice : I have always had some reservations about devices with a modular architecture. This is probably unfounded as the Selekt has the reputation of being an excellent device.
I have got a question about the Selekt,Katalyst : is it ready for an Exakt link with the Urika2?
I too was skeptical about the signal from the LP12 being digitalized. This became compulsory, when my Akurate DSM received the Katalyst upgrade. I compared before and after and definitely preferred the Katalyst version. Likewise I also preferred the Urika 2 over the Urika 1.
The Selekt does have an Exakt Link input/output.
The Selekt does have an Exakt Link input/output.
Thank you Tendaberry for your feedback.
I was asking about the compatibility of the Urika2 with the Selekt Exakt Link input/output because it is not mentioned on the Linn website.
The information: "Exakt Links for connection of Klimax LP12, Urika II, ..." is only mentioned in the NGKDSM features.
In the Akurate DSM features it only says: "Exakt Link for connection to Linn Exaktbox or integrated speakers".
In the Selekt DSM features it says: "Exakt Ready". And the 2 x Exakt are only indicated as Outputs and not as Inputs.
But I just called my Linn dealer and he told me that the Urika2 is compatible with the Selekt DSM Katalyst.
I was asking about the compatibility of the Urika2 with the Selekt Exakt Link input/output because it is not mentioned on the Linn website.
The information: "Exakt Links for connection of Klimax LP12, Urika II, ..." is only mentioned in the NGKDSM features.
In the Akurate DSM features it only says: "Exakt Link for connection to Linn Exaktbox or integrated speakers".
In the Selekt DSM features it says: "Exakt Ready". And the 2 x Exakt are only indicated as Outputs and not as Inputs.
But I just called my Linn dealer and he told me that the Urika2 is compatible with the Selekt DSM Katalyst.
I once plugged my Urika II equipped Klimax LP12 into a Majik DSM/3. It sounded awesome! Proceed with much confidence.
Don't you also have to purchase a Radikal power supply to power the Urika 2? OP is using a Lingo 4.
Yes. Either Urika requires a Radikal to supply power.
Yes I know I should buy a Radikal. The Urika 1 or 2 needs the Radikal power supply.
As I will have to buy a new phono stage in the next few months I was comparing Uphorik and Select DSM Katalyst.
The Selekt is the alternative that will allow me to replace most of my boxes on this system, as StellanH said.
Selekt is also an alternative that will make future upgrades possible. I was looking at what was possible to do the roadmap
As I will have to buy a new phono stage in the next few months I was comparing Uphorik and Select DSM Katalyst.
The Selekt is the alternative that will allow me to replace most of my boxes on this system, as StellanH said.
Selekt is also an alternative that will make future upgrades possible. I was looking at what was possible to do the roadmap
When I purchased my Selekt I also purchased the Acurate Radikal due to all the promos going on. The Selekt replaced a McIntosh C22 so I started using the SDSM phono stage with a Krystal cartridge. This worked well and I was very happy with it.
When the Karousel bearing was released there was a promo so I bought the Urika II at that time since my dealer had to get inside the deck to install the bearing. I also did the Ekos SE as well.
I really like the Urika II and if you can stretch it would be a good upgrade and approach. BTW, to get most benefit of this approach your SDSM should be Katalyst. The Urika II will have an input sample rate of 24/192 and this will hold true till you go back to analog on the output of the analog outputs of the SDSM or you can take it Exakt all the way to the speakers.
Many options. Also, with the Urika II you can capture the output of the LP12 with Songcorder for playback later at 24/192. The new mix tape.
When the Karousel bearing was released there was a promo so I bought the Urika II at that time since my dealer had to get inside the deck to install the bearing. I also did the Ekos SE as well.
I really like the Urika II and if you can stretch it would be a good upgrade and approach. BTW, to get most benefit of this approach your SDSM should be Katalyst. The Urika II will have an input sample rate of 24/192 and this will hold true till you go back to analog on the output of the analog outputs of the SDSM or you can take it Exakt all the way to the speakers.
Many options. Also, with the Urika II you can capture the output of the LP12 with Songcorder for playback later at 24/192. The new mix tape.
Is analog to digital conversion better i n Katalyst than pre-Katalyst? I ask because I recently found the internal ADC of my Kii3 speakers superior to that of my pre-Katalyst Akurate DSM and I am about to replace my Linto for a PS Audio Stellar whose XLR outputs will deliver analog signal to the Kiis. But if Katalyst is better I might hang on to my Linto. As the Kiis do DSP I am not in the choice between analog or digital but the discovery that the now old AD conversion was limiting my musical experience was a big surprise.I too was skeptical about the signal from the LP12 being digitalized. This became compulsory, when my Akurate DSM received the Katalyst upgrade. I compared before and after and definitely preferred the Katalyst version. Likewise I also preferred the Urika 2 over the Urika 1.
The Selekt does have an Exakt Link input/output.
For streaming and cds the digital output is coaxial to the Kiis and that is excellent.
I also noted that What Hifi was happy with everything about the Klimax Organik DS except the phono input quality.
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That puzzled me at the time, given that the ADC stage will be comparable or better than the Urika II, and I have no problem with that at all. Did What Hifi say what analogue device(s) they used? It could just as easily been the KDSM showing them in all their “glory”
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No. What Hifi only mentions their Naim top of the line streamer but they may have tested using the Naim’s analog output. I dislike having several conversions between A and D in a signal path if it can be avoided. This is actually one advantage of my 2014 ADSM, it is possible to keep the analog inputs analog to output. This was how I discovered how bad its ADC was. I need to try that again because the digital part of my ADSM actually broke and was replaced with a unit from another DSM by my local shop.
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First of all, Welcome! I think you would be better off not paying too much mind to opinions in hifi magazines/online reviews. I've found that the writers really don't know a lot about the subject matter. I think you would do better asking your dealer and this forum, as you are now doing.
First of all, Welcome! I think you would be better off not paying too much mind to opinions in hifi magazines/online reviews. I've found that the writers really don't know a lot about the subject matter. I think you would do better asking your dealer and this forum, as you are now doing.
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