Sony R-1 Transport/DAC

[Marco]

Hi Guys,

I have the opportunity ofbuying one of thesebabies for £2k. It's mint and is supposed to be a bit of a classic. What I wondered was, how good is it? Does anyone have any experience/info, and what is your opinion of it as a top-notch CDP?

Normally, I'm not big on Japanese CD players, but concede that Sonys of this nature are a supposed to be a bit special.

Anyway, all advice will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

 

[Biscuit]

heathcote audio? tbh unless its absolutely pristine out the box never used, its a bit rich. Nice cdp though.

 

[Marco]

Cheers, Biscuit.

It fulfils all the above criteria. Have you heard it before, and if so, what's your opinion?

 

[Biscuit]

can't speak from personal experience on this one I'm afraid - but I've spoken to a couple of owners about them in the past (was going to buy a pair myself at one point) and by all accounts they are very special.

Once the lazer block goes you are buggered though - but I'm sure if you are careful and treat it well it will last and last.

 

[Marco]

Ok, Biscuit - noted

I reckon it'll sound bloody marvellous, but we'll see what happens after I've demo'd it.

Cheers.

 

[Guest]

Marco wrote:

Ok, Biscuit - noted

I reckon it'll sound bloody marvellous, but we'll see what happens after I've demo'd it.

Cheers.

on a mountain of mana of course.

 

[Mr Coherent]

Polar opposite to naim, very rare, quite nice, but getting transport parts good luck

I believe that chap on pfm has owned/sold them in the past (enjoy_the_music).

I had a pair traded last year, unrated performance for £2k your need to haggle imo

Mr.C

 

[Marco]

But of course... weeth thees Ferrero Rocher, you are spoiling us

Phase 17, amigo

 

[Guest]

Marco wrote:

But of course... weeth thees Ferrero Rocher, you are spoiling us

Phase 17, amigo

you up to phase 17.

you are indeed insane.

 

[Marco]

Mr Coherent wrote:

Polar opposite to naim, very rare, quite nice, but getting transport parts good luck

I believe that chap on pfm has owned/sold them in the past (enjoy_the_music).

I had a pair traded last year, unrated performance for £2k your need to haggle imo

Mr.C

Hi Tony,

Cheers for the advice. I'm trying to get a handle on how they sound, though. When you say the "Polar opposite to Naim", do you mean sonically, and if so, in what way?

What I'm looking for is a punchy, detailed, and musicalsound. What I don't want is a soft, syrupy-rich sound that's bland and boring to listen to. Also, any idea of their original R.R.P?

 

[Biscuit]

original retail was £3 or 4000 I think. The price is in the world classics section of HFW magazines if somebody has one to hand?

I'd say punchy and detailed sums up the sound of all the Sony cdp's of that era I've had the pleasure to hear (X7ES and X777ES).

www.thevintageknob.org should give you much more info.

 

[Guest]

Biscuit wrote:

original retail was £3 or 4000 I think. The price is in the world classics section of HFW magazines if somebody has one to hand?

fuck me you can buy a flat here for that.

 

[Marco]

rudolph hucker wrote:

you up to phase 17.you are indeed insane.

A veritable nutter, mon ami

Yeah, I've inherited some more Manafrom a friend and rearranged a few things, so Marco's Mana towers are somewhat loftier than ever

 

[Mr Coherent]

Marco,

They ain't syrpy, they are more hifi than music, but have a fair turn of speed and can rock a bit too.

Lovely build qality, great novelty value. though they are beginning to show their age.

Good pieces of equipment, though parts for them maybe an issue do take that into account when considering a purchase, failing that (blatant plug here

) consider a Teac d70/p70 (if you wish the 2 box route) or an Esoteric X-03 the differnece is more than a little subtle, thought the price reflects this.

 

[Biscuit]

Mr Coherent wrote:

Marco, They ain't syrpy, they are more hifi than music, but have a fair turn of speed and can rock a bit too.

Lovely build qality, great novelty value. though they are beginning to show their age.

Good pieces of equipment, though parts for them maybe an issue do take that into account when considering a purchase, failing that (blatant plug here

) consider a Teac d70/p70 (if you wish the 2 box route) or an Esoteric X-03 the differnece is more than a little subtle, thought the price reflects this.

I think Tony talks sense - they certainly aren't a 'safe' purchase at £2000.

If you like the idea of trying a jap cdp something along the lines of a late K2 Victor or Esoteric is the way to go. The Esoteric 1 box based on the P70/D70 the D-50 I think its called, should be around 2k... Lovely

 

[Marco]

Mr Coherent wrote:

Marco, They ain't syrpy, they are more hifi than music, but have a fair turn of speed and can rock a bit too.

Lovely build qality, great novelty value. though they are beginning to show their age.

Good pieces of equipment, though parts for them maybe an issue do take that into account when considering a purchase, failing that (blatant plug here

) consider a Teac d70/p70 (if you wish the 2 box route) or an Esoteric X-03 the differnece is more than a little subtle, thought the price reflects this.

Hi Tony,

Again, cheers for the info. I'm a bit worried about the "more hi-fi than music" bit, but we'll see once I've heard them. I reckon the rest of my system is musical enough to 'bring out the music' in them

Do you have a D70/P70 for sale, then? If so, how much, and do you have any pictures?

Biscuit,

Cheers for the info and the link. I'll have read through it

 

[Mr Coherent]

Marco,

I currently do not have d70/p70 in stock, they fetch between £4500 and £5k (Used) the d70 has a direct pre-amp function too.

It just stays in touch with X03 one box, if your serious about a top quality digital front end then an audition is a must, nothing currently on the market comes close IMO

 

[Marco]

Ok, guys. I'll chew over all the info, do some research, and take it from there. Looks like I'll have to do some work on that £2k price, though...

Not a problem to a Scotsman

 

[Guest]

marco a wadia 861 is the way to go ole boy. you want the best you gotta pay for it i'm affaid.