I have a pair of Dali Rubicon 2 speakers. The left is 18 inches from the left wall and the right is about 3 feet. Dali say fire them straight into the room. Is this ok as the left one is pretty close to the wall.
As with any loudspeaker .. experiment with position to find where you like the sound best. If close to a side wall just a very small toe in may result in a smoother sound - You won't know until you try it
Aye Tuga .. I realise that. I would still experiment though because if they are close to side walls then the reflection may be even worse than sitting on axis .. It may prove to be a wasted exercise but you never know until you try. Hence why just a smidgeon of toe in may be fruiful (or it may not) - costs nothing to tryOn axis they sound way too toppy, they're flat at 45º and thus put out a lot much energy to the sides than typical loudspeakers:
Please let us know your findings when you get them. Thanks.When it comes to speaker placement toe-in/out largely depends on how far you normally sit from the said speakers. Of course most brands will recommend some should should X amount of toe-in, such as Kef, Dali etc etc.
Personally I find the presentation more open with the PMCs almost straight, as I did with the RS6s.
I would suggest experimenting until you hear the ideal balance.
Oddly my new speakers will be the Rubicon 2s.
If you have the patience, please move your speakers in or out, back or forth, one inch at a time, and then listen carefully to the results. You might be able to fine tune further. Eventually it will be like making fine EQ adjustments.I tried toe in but I don’t think is sounded as good so I have put them back firing straight. I have also pulled them a few inches further into the room which I think improves the sound.
Hi sirI have a pair of Dali Rubicon 2 speakers. The left is 18 inches from the left wall and the right is about 3 feet. Dali say fire them straight into the room. Is this ok as the left one is pretty close to the wall.
Hi. Thank you for your advice. I agree about the distance between speakers being smaller than the distance you sit away from them. I like to sit quite close to the speakers. I think this gives less side wall reflections.Hi sir
My speakers are also a wide dispersion DIY build. They were designed to fire straight ahead, with no toe-in. So below are my experiments with speaker placement and toe-in :
1. I always liked a expansive sound stage. So my speakers were placed closed to 11 ft apart. Though my listening distance is 8.5 feet.
2. Though I had a massive sound stage, my imaging was just about average.
3. I started toeing in my speakers, in the hope that my imaging would improve, but it just collapsed further.
4. I then realised that the more I toed in my speakers, the more the reflections from my untreated front wall, were interfering with the direct sound, and were ruining my imaging.
5. So I now have both speakers firing straight.
6. The biggest benefit I've discovered is by moving my speakers closer, they are now 8feet apart, tweeter to tweeter. And my listening distance remains the same at 8.5 feet. I find that, as long as the speaker to speaker distance, remains lower than the speaker to listener distance, then imaging snaps into place, with no toe-in.
7. In your certain case sir, I would suggest playing the " the ballad of the run away horse" sung by Miss. emmalouis Harris ( there is also a version of it sung by a male singer). But this is a reference track , used by lots of professional installers in the USA , to nail the imaging.
8. I only found it on YouTube so far, but when you play it, the lady's vocals have to be exactly at the center between the speakers. So if your goodselves finds, that they are skewed to left of center, due to the left speaker being closer to a side wall, then you can start toeing in the right speaker, till you have a central vocal image again.
9. Miss Emma Louis Harris, is 5'8" tall. So the vocal has to come from this exact height. You can play with tilting the speakers forward or backwards to get this exact height..
10. Once you've got this track, with the vocals exactly at the center, and at the right height, then you will have the best imaging possible, in your room.
All the best sir
PS : iam a relative newbie to this hobby, and my room is very heavily treated for only bass. But I still like a expansive sound stage, so I will again move my speakers to be 11feet apart, and I will toe-in the speakers, only once I've treated my front wall with 3D skyline diffusers. Vicoustic seem to he the cheapest around .