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I've seen these mentioned as "tweaks" in the hifi press & Golden Dragon produce a range that seem to be able to fit any valve currently used. They are anything but cheap- eg to treat my Quad monoblocks will cost me over £400. Has anybody any experience with them?

 

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I have some of the cooler/damper things that are meant to be even better than the Golden Dragon things. I hear no difference.

I suspect that the pain when you burn yourself taking them off to A/B them makes you less able to listen to the music.

Spend the £400 on music
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Naturally, YMMV!

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If it was me I'd use delicious crispy squid rings - just popa coupleon your tubes and you add chewiness and bite to the sound, plus after a while you'll have a delicious piping-hot snack! Yum!

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earl of sodbury wrote:

If it was me I'd use delicious crispy squid rings - just popa coupleon your tubes and you add chewiness and bite to the sound, plus after a while you'll have a delicious piping-hot snack! Yum!
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By far the best idea.

Tube rings are supposed to act as dampers to kill effects of microphony and in fairness, could, I suppose have an effect. However, there have to be some DIY alternatives. 400 smackers is an awful lot....

 

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If you want to try damper then go for these as a cost effective option. This guy has loads of different sizes as well.

 

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EofS,

you are a truly wonderfully sick man!

cheers

Dave

ps the aroma from those squid rings as the valves warm them might be somewhat....... evocative ???

 

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I've used Golden Dragon rings &rubberised concertina fin things ... none of them made the slightest difference to the sound.

Total waste of money sound quality-wise - I guess the fin things might have increased cooling and so prolonged tube life .... but then again maybe not.

Save your money and buy some more music !

 
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DB wrote:

EofS,you are a truly wonderfully sick man!

cheers

Dave

ps the aroma from those squid rings as the valves warm them might be somewhat....... evocative ???
TA!
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yeah the great smell of well-battered fadge! :raoflmfao:

YUM!

 

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stefanher wrote:

I've seen these mentioned as "tweaks" in the hifi press & Golden Dragon produce a range that seem to be able to fit any valve currently used. They are anything but cheap- eg to treat my Quad monoblocks will cost me over £400. Has anybody any experience with them?
Waste of money, amplifiers have managed for years without them
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stefanher wrote:

mrwippy wrote:
If you want to try damper then go for these as a cost effective option. This guy has loads of different sizes as well.
He'll put Golden dragon out of business! Anyway the consensus seems to be that I should save my money.
Depends on the tube and the application - I use them all the time on my 2A3's. But I would make the point that they will not make an inherentlymicro-phonic tube any less micro-phonic! Also, in some instances the excessive use of tube damping can make the amps sound worse. The reason I use dampers on the 2A3's is due to their large envelope and that they ring like a miniature bell with the slightest touch.

 
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I have always been rather dubious, having tried silicone (?) dampers without any obvious effect. But I read great things about Herbie's tube rings (http://herbiesaudiolab.home.att.net/) and decided to try them. They are relatively cheap and come with a 90-day trial period. The downside is that they come from the USA - but shipping is not expensive.

I bought them for all the valves in my system (phono stage, preamp and 2A3 amp) and I am very impressed. They do the "make the blacks blacker" thing, so that the music pops out from a quieter place and has more impact. Also, noise that you weren't aware of is reduced.

I am very happy and won't go back to being without them.

There are dozens and dozens of endorsements on Herbie's web page. He is also discussed a lot in Audio Asylum and he seems like a really decent bloke.

 

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