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Any wammers skilled at this?

how much would it cost to veneer a pair of Audio note AN-e speakers?

Anyone up for it.

Speakers are currently in west sussex, but i will be in scotland then onto devon from 14th aug for 2 weeks with work in a van

Anyone?

 

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Any wammers skilled at this?how much would it cost to veneer a pair of Audio note AN-e speakers?
I looked into this a while back - general advice was that you risk changing the sound of the speakers given that AN-E work in a rather atypical way.

One suggestion was to speak directly to AN-E (Peter Q in Hove) in case he knows of any AN-E carcasses lying around the place.

Ended up going up the AN-E food chain a little and selling the old ones on.

 

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I looked into this a while back - general advice was that you risk changing the sound of the speakers given that AN-E work in a rather atypical way.One suggestion was to speak directly to AN-E (Peter Q in Hove) in case he knows of any AN-E carcasses lying around the place.

Ended up going up the AN-E food chain a little and selling the old ones on.
How could changing the veneer possibly affect the sound of the speakers? Except maybe if you forgot to cut out the holes for the drivers:p

I realise AN cabs aren't the most substantial around but surely removing the old veneer an replacing it with some different veneer cant change the sound... :dunno:

 

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It wont! as the kits come in bare baltic birchply for the owner to paint or veneer as they please.

Anyway im looking for someone who can do this nothing else.

 

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I looked into this a while back - general advice was that you risk changing the sound of the speakers given that AN-E work in a rather atypical way.One suggestion was to speak directly to AN-E (Peter Q in Hove) in case he knows of any AN-E carcasses lying around the place.

Ended up going up the AN-E food chain a little and selling the old ones on.
You can't serious, There is no way a re veneer could possibly change the sound. Your mention of carases implies you didn't understand the original question

 

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Any wammers skilled at this?how much would it cost to veneer a pair of Audio note AN-e speakers?

Anyone up for it.

Speakers are currently in west sussex, but i will be in scotland then onto devon from 14th aug for 2 weeks with work in a van

Anyone?
Ron you could no better than Russ Collinson (based near Barnsley) he does superb work and has done exactly what you need for more than one or two wammers. Pretty sure he did a wonderful job on a pair of AN-J's, I think for either smeagol or Bourney. He's done plenty of bespoke work for me. His email address is russ@layers-of-beauty.co.uk

 

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Ron you could no better than Russ Collinson (based near Barnsley) he does superb work and has done exactly what you need for more than one or two wammers. Pretty sure he did a wonderful job on a pair of AN-J's, I think for either smeagol or Bourney. He's done plenty of bespoke work for me. His email address is russ@layers-of-beauty.co.uk
Seconded. I've seen a few examples of his work and it's been universally excellent.

He used to post here a fair bit, but I haven't seen him around for a while. Hopefully, that's because he's busy!

 

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I wouldn't like to suggest a price to be honest as the work he has done for me was building furniture from scratch. But if you look on his website at some of the plinths he has built, he does quote prices for them and personally I think he undervalues his work, but you judge for your self.

 

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Just mailed him will of course depend on the cost im running out very fast. :) Any idea what the costs are?
Just to give you an idea on costs, I had my 801s reveneered in zebrano for £500 including VAT. They're octagonal in cross section with a 20mm wide rim round the top, so probably more work than a more conventional box.

S

 

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Thanks Serge,

was a guy advertising recently but cant remember where, he has a CNC joinery business and can make baltic birch ply cabs to AN plans with zebrano veneer for £350! looks like a bargain to me. He might have advertised on fleabay too, must get a look

 

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Cost essentially depends on size of panels to be veneered. Big surface areas can raise costs as bigger sheets of veneer are required. However Russ's charges were reasonable for Tannoy Devon sized boxes and his work was excellent.

 

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Thanks Serge,was a guy advertising recently but cant remember where, he has a CNC joinery business and can make baltic birch ply cabs to AN plans with zebrano veneer for £350! looks like a bargain to me. He might have advertised on fleabay too, must get a look
Might be this guy based in Moldova, pretty sure I've seen him advertise for AN cabs as well in the past

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/megaposter...amp;_sid=1028788103&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

http://stores.eBay.co.uk/megaposters/Other-/_i.html?_fsub=1&_sid=1028788103&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

his work looks decent in pics, but in the flesh may be a different matter, but his feedback is OK

 

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I have Bourney's old AN Js which I believe we're re-veneered by Russ Collinson, and they look and sound great yo me, so would recommend him.

 

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Thanks Serge,was a guy advertising recently but cant remember where, he has a CNC joinery business and can make baltic birch ply cabs to AN plans with zebrano veneer for £350! looks like a bargain to me. He might have advertised on fleabay too, must get a look
Whilst there are some who don't believe the cabinet construction is important, IMHO it is a crucial aspect of the sound of a speaker. The radiating area of the cabinet is -much- bigger than the radiating areas of the drivers. The cabinet adds to the driver output. It is driven by vibration from the drive units and pressure fluctuations inside. It is all but impossible to measure how much of the sound being radiated by the speaker comes from the drive units and how much from the cabinets. Some think it either unimportant or even desirable to have some cabinet radiation, there is even a speaker using a "soundboard" like a piano. Whilst this may sound lovely I find it difficult to believe it is terribly accurate on, say, a flute.

It is possible nowadays to fairly easily calculate using finite element methods the various outputs from cabinet and drive units.

All the best sounding speakers of my recent experience have been designed to minimise cabinet radiation. My Goldmund Epilogs, Magicos, KEF LS50s and Q Acoustics concept 20s are all like this and IMHO punch above their weight.

I have heard some prototypes where a very sophisticated cabinet was compared with a basic cabinet of the same volume using well engineered but modestly priced OEM drivers and good quality hifi drivers 50x more expensive. IMO and that of all the other listeners the modest drivers in the inert cabinet sounded better than the fancy drivers in basic cabinet.

What I have spent a long time recommending is to be careful dicking with cabinets. Reveneering with veneer of the same thickness and same glue as originals will -probably- be OK, new cabinets with no control over the materials and construction could result in a very different sounding speaker.

 

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No argument from me about the cabinet construction, never mentioned there was im using the cabinets made with the material and to the Audionote drawings, Someone mentioned that veneer could possibly change the sound of the speakers, that i dont agree with as the Audionote site sell made up cabinets that require finishing to the owners own wishes either veneered or staned or painted.

Veneering is coming in way too expensive for my budget so may have a go myself.

 

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