What constitutes a low capacitance cable?

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I'm in the process of changing my phono, the manufacturer suggests I use a low capacitance cable between my phono and passive pre. How does one measure capacitance? Is low capacitance a trait of multistrand or solid core?

My current interconect is an unscreened, 1m pair made using 2x 0.5mm silver strands in ptfe.

Hopefully this wont descend into an abusive cable war - holds breath :upgrade:

 

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Look up the spec for the cable you want to use. It will tell you it's so many pF per metre (or foot).

RG59, which is my favourite for interconnects, is 68pF/m. Low capacitance and well screened.

RG6 is better screened but a bit stiffer and that's 66pF/m , not that it will make a lot of difference which is why I prefer RG59 for line-level interconnects.

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Capacitance is a function of cable layup, coaxial is inherently capacitative which is minimised by maximising distances between signal (core) and return (screen); unscreened cables, which usually rely on twisting to reduce stray pickup are inherently lower capacitance designs, they just require careful siting to avoid pickup of stray signal from power lines, switchmode PSUs, and anything with digital processing within it.All cable designs are a compromise - generally changing one characteristic to reduce one parameter yields an increase elswhere.

I don't personally think phono - pre is all that critical: the signal has been amplified to at least a volt or two usually; the run from cart to phono is much more important.

In any case, the overall length of cables usually makes more difference than their designs.
Oh ---------shorter the better presumably?
Capacitance scales linearly, so the shorter the better. However, what the effect of capacitance is, depends on where it is used, and the details of the sending impedance. In the case of a phono stage to amplifier, this isn't too critical unless the phono amp has a high output impedance, which is why I suspect the recommendation was for low capacitance cable. Pre-amp to power amp or source to pre-amp are generally non critical, whilst cartridge to phono is much more critical. In the case of a MM cartridge, added capacitance must be carefully controlled, as otherwise the frequency response suffers, whilst for MC cartridges, the added capacitance isn't critical, but good screening is.

As to cable length in itself, it isn't important, but capacitance and screening is, hence the advice above that length matters. Not because of the length in itself, but because of the screening and capacitance issues that accompany long cables.

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I should add that even the boggo standard Van Damme Hi fi twin interconnect 268-500-000 is pretty good, someone on here sells Vandamme;-).

 

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Capacitance scales linearly, so the shorter the better.As to cable length in itself, it isn't important, but capacitance and screening is, hence the advice above that length matters. Not because of the length in itself, but because of the screening and capacitance issues that accompany long cables.

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Slightly off topic but regarding speaker cables I'm pretty sure my Amplifier instruction manual recommends a minimum of 5m of low capacitance cable. Why would this be so?

 

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Slightly off topic but regarding speaker cables I'm pretty sure my Amplifier instruction manual recommends a minimum of 5m of low capacitance cable. Why would this be so?
Low capacitance loudspeaker cable is usually made by spacing the two conductors some 20-25mm apart. This lowers the capacitance but increases the inductance. Your amplifier would appear not to be unconditionally stable and needs to see some inductance in the output to avoid instability. Naim amplifiers were of this sort, and it hasn't done them any harm even though from an engineering perspective, it shows less than thorough design.

Normally, loudspeaker cables have the two conductors either close together, as a figure-of-eight, or loosly twisted together. This reduces the inductance to a minimum but increases the capacitance, which most power amplifiers aren't bothered about.

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unscreened cables, which usually rely on twisting to reduce stray pickup are inherently lower capacitance designs... In any case, the overall length of cables usually makes more difference than their designs.
Thanks for the advice (everyone), I'll try it with my current interconnects which are twisted/unscreened so in theory lower capacitance but know what to try if I experience a compatibility problem.

 

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